The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (2009)

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (2009)

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How to kill without it counting as a murder
By Cronelius M. Greg
Learn how to kill without it counting as a murder and thus not receiving the visit of Lucien while you sleep and not having to deal with the guards if you fail when sneaking behind a NPC and you don't have enough power to kill it in one hit.
   
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Introduction
Are you tired of the omnipresent guards that know when you killed someone even if it happened in the middle of the forest/while they sleep? Fear no more! With this guide you will be able to keep your murder count at 0 and the guards won't know it was you!
Know your tools
You will need something to kill them, right? They won't suddenly die in front of the guards/other NPCs without a weapon/arrow killing them! Or yes? Certain food especially used by the Dark Brotherhood: the Poisoned Apple and the Chokeberry (this one is added by the addon ''Vile Lair'') can be deadly if consumed (Obviously don't eat them or you will die).
How to get them
- Poisoned Apples: You can find them in two places: 10 Apples inside Fort Farragut (East of Cheydinhal) and 5 that you can buy from a NPC of the Dark Brotherhood inside the sanctuary once you join them.
The better ones are those inside Fort Farragut, because they are free and since they respawn, you can take 10 each 72 hours.
East of Cheydinhal you will find this Fort, once you get there, look for a hollow tree northwest of the main fort door and you'll find there a trap door, use it and go to your left, near a table with alchemy
tools you will see a barrel with a ''very hard'' lock, open it and take the apples!

- Chokeberries: These only will appear inside Deepscorn Hollow (Wich is added by the ''Vile Lair'' addon) once you buy the garden upgrade. You can use them the same way as the apples. (Caution: If you don't have the ''Unofficial Official Mods Patch'' they will weight 0,1 pounds and you won't be able to reverse pickpocket them to a NPC)

Poisoned Apple and Chokeberries:
How to use them
- Poisoned Apples: It's simple! Wait until the nigth and break inside the house of the NPC you want dead, then wait for them to go to bed and place the apple inside the NPC's inventory or a table somewhere where the NPC can take it. (Remember to grab the rest of the food inside the NPC's inventory and the house or the NPC won't eat the apple), then wait until they eat and watch how they suddenly die!
Or you can drop it in the middle of the street or a public place if you just want to kill random people!

- Chokeberries: Same method as the apples. (Well, if you don't have the Unofficial patch you'll need to drop them somewhere so the NPC can take them.)

REMEMBER:
Some NPCs never eat or they have a self-replenishing supply of food, so you can't kill them with the poisoned food.
Also, respawning NPCs like guards will carry the ''poisoned food'' effect each time they respawn and will die instantly each time they respawn.
The End
I hope this guide helps new players (and old players that did not know about this method) to raise the count of dead NPCs, either to avoid the visit of Lucien or just because they don't want to be annoyed by the guards.
I got all the images from google images.
Excuse my english. It isn't my first language.
51 Comments
crabrangoon 14 Jun, 2022 @ 6:18pm 
instructions unclear: my revolver marks 19 and 1 more
High Lord Laughter of Canada 17 Jun, 2021 @ 9:09am 
That literally requires completing an entire quest line. It's easier to get the apples and berries.
DoomTitan 14 Dec, 2019 @ 11:43pm 
Just wear the gray fox cowl
TheSpottedStripe 7 Jul, 2019 @ 4:03pm 
So...uh do you know of any people practicing this?
I would like to speak to them.
Tasthesose 23 Jun, 2019 @ 7:28am 
S T O P C R I M A N A L S C U M
Mr. Death 14 Feb, 2018 @ 10:58am 
I personally just make sure the last blow came from a damage health poison. It still counts as assault, but you can kill anyone you want that way without the 1,000 gold bounty or waiting days for them to eat apples.
Hytheria 21 Apr, 2017 @ 2:50am 
@DIETDORITOS
Be wary that guards are always 10 levels above your player character. Luckly, due to how the way frenzy spells were programed, if you cast a level 25 spell of frenzy, it should affect all levels above it. Though, you need the spell to be at 100% effectiveness (meaning that you are wearing no armour at the time of casting). The Blessing of Madness spell you speak of is only a level 12 spell. In the same expansion pack, there is a level 25 power you may use after completing the quest Ahjazda's Paranoia. The power has the same name.
GrandFusion 14 Apr, 2017 @ 11:18am 
My first "murder", and the one lucien visited me for was the arena champ. haha
Immaculate Ejaculate 12 Mar, 2017 @ 9:32pm 
You could always cast frenzy on the target and let the guards take care of him/her.

Or do the first part of Shivering Isles (Killing the gatekeeper) and go through the door on the left. Doing so will grant you "Blessing of Madness" which will cause Frenzy in a 40 ft. radius. Guards don't appear to be affected by any sort of frenzy spells.
Boghos 7 Mar, 2017 @ 12:06am 
Does this guide also apply for real life?