PAYDAY 2

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MASTERMINDING (Evolution Of Stealthing)
By Caff
THIS IS NOT STEALTHING IT'S MASTERMINDING.
On technicality the definition of stealthing in this game is the lack of the police force (minus the initial security guards spawned). So this would be pro-ghost, stealthing, but I guess it's an injustices to compare Masterminding to Stealthing. So please call this technique masterminding.

This guide is the evolution of stealthing. It will demonstrate, and teach you how to "mastermind" (stealth) a heist in 3 minutes or less.


EDITS
October 27, 2013 -- Added Nightclub To The List
November 4, 2013 -- Added Framing Frame Day 3 To The List (And In The Video Demonstrates How To Pull Off A Recorvery)
   
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The Basics
The opposite of what every professional Ghost will tell you when it comes to stealthing, and believe me if everyone knew how easy this is, it would be patched (joke). Most of the theories behind this is luck and having the will to repeat a level ten to twenty times. Which originally yes it may seem that way but if you prevail and truely learn from your mistakes rather than hitting the retry button just to run blindly into combat again you'll pick this up. And be able to perform it several times in a row.
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STEPS TO BECOMING A BETTER "GHOST"
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1) Shoot Camera's While On The Move But Try And Avoid Camping In One Spot
2) Shoot/Break Glass, If Someone Notices It An Exclamation Mark, And Easy Kill Will Pop Up
3) Learn To Take On Two(+) People At A Time, Get Comfortable With Stealthing
4) Convert Your Dominated Person, Allows You To Dominate Another Person
5) Rarely Crouch When Moving Since It Slows You Down (Watch Your Surroundings)
6) Charge In, If You Are Waiting For A Guard You Probably Shouldn't Be Stealthing (Besides Cams)
7) Go Alone At First, Offline, If You Mess Up Easier To Restart, And Easier To Point The Blame
8) If You Leave The Body Where It Lays, It Will Act As A Way To Cover Your Back, Exclamation Marks

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WEAPON SET(S)
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Weapon Set One
l---> Primary: CAR-4 Rifle
l---> Mods: Short Barrel, Firebreather, Vintage Magazine, Folding Stock
l---> Secondary: Chimano 88 Pistol
l---> Mods: Size Doesn't Matter

Weapon Set Two
l---> Primary: CAR-4 Rifle
l---> Mods: Short Barrel, Low Profile Supressor, Vintage Magazine, Folding Stock
l---> Secondary: Chimano 88 Pistol
l---> Mods: Size Doesn't Matter
Builds that would be able to do this...
100% Stealth Build[www.pd2skills.info]

10% Tech Build[www.pd2skills.info]

10% Mastermind Build[www.pd2skills.info]

Bare Minimum[www.pd2skills.info]
Technique
Now, taking on two PLUS people solo becomes an issue when it comes to stealth. First of all you want to shoot to kill, so prior to both of them spotting you, you should of already killed one person. Now you can either...

A) Wait for the first pager (from the person you killed) goes off (yellow outline around the dead body), drop the ecm and kill the second guard and simply answer the first pager. Once the ecm wares off go for the second pager (requires the ghost skill: ECM Specialist ACED).

B) Once you killed one you know you can't kill the second one immediately because that will FORCE you to pick up TWO pagers by YOURSELF so... You run up to the second guard and use the skill "Dominator" to force him to surrender, if he appears to not give in hit him once then keep hitting your interaction key (by default F) to make him surrender.

Now If you are faced with THREE people at a time it becomes really tricky because It requires you to...

A) Combine both tactics from the previous lesson, once you kill the first one hide for a little while till the yellow outline (pager) goes off then drop and ecm, At that very moment run in and kill one and dominate the third guard. WARNING: This is actually extremely tough because the first pager if not answered in time will signal the police and ruin your stealth.

B) After killing the first security officer drop an ecm so his pager doesn't go off, run in and dominate the second guard, convert him, then dominate the third guard. WARNING: The Time it takes to dominate the second guard and convert him will be more than enough time for the third guard to open fire on you. So make sure it's the last three guards or you have a backup plan, like another ecm to drop.


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EXCLAMATION MARKS
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Now how I said to leave your broken glass and shot up dead bodies laying around, as long as your sure no camera's will witness your crimes drop an ecm and immediately rush to that exclamation mark, it's a free kill, and maybe dominate him if you want to kill someone while your ecm is down.


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Always Joker (Convert) Your Dominated
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Now originally this sounds dumb because he open fires at other security officers even when the alarms haven't gone off yet, and two he can run through lasers (haven't seen it myself but apparently they can set them off). But if your quick, not crouching but running or at least standing up and moving at a reasonable speed he won't fallow you as well as you think, he probably won't even fire. And this allows you to dominate another person incase you come up against two people at the same time, more of a tactic to save your own behind rather than a tactic to get out of using a pager.
Framing Frame Day 1


Now you can see how easy this actually is and how effective it is. Shortening the length of a solo stealth run from five PLUS minutes to a mere two minutes and fourteen seconds. So don't quite turn this thread away without a single thought. It may sound insanely dumb and based off luck but it's not, it's based off skill and training. This is an example where you want to use weapon set two as oppose to weapon set one, the firebreather with control freak you'll notice will come in handy on some other levels within this list though.
Jewelry Store


There's not much to this one, you can do this way more faster than what I did in the video though while still stealthing, running into the back upon killing/dominating the back two pull your your primary (CAR-4 With the mod Firebreather, Weapon set one) and shoot out a back window. The sounds will tell every civilian to hit the ground, make sure to drop an ecm prior to this because camera's CAN spawn on this map. Run into the main lobby bypassing the safe and shoot out every camera and security officer, if there's two in there dominate one and kill one, so you only have one pager to answer once the ecm wares off. This should cut the time down to 1:50 roughly. Of course that still is a fairly long time when you can just play with a few friends, drop an ecm so no cops can be called as you just smash a grab.
Bank Heist


Bank Heist, this one is supprisingly easy to do and yet I still see pro stealth teams taking their time, taking out the camera's and waiting for the guards to come out and ultimately taking around five to six MINUTES to lock down the bank. Running to the front of the bank, sneaking through the side door to kill the tellers rather than ONE of them having control freak. It's just sad, I mean i set up the drill solo along with taking them all out solo, everyone needs to learn to stealth more effieciently.
Diamond Heist

Diamond Heist, this heist isn't really worth running because it's so hard and not worth the payout. It's easy to mess up and impossible to stealth. HA~ people who complain about this map is hilarious I mean it isn't hard at all to stealth! Addition to that if you got a fast team it takes less than a minute to lock down this place, and it takes only like two to three minutes to take out all the bags to the van. The payout comparing to the time it takes to run this isn't half bad, it still isn't framing frame good comparing that takes less than 20 minutes but it still is better payout than the Bank Heist.
Four Stores

Okay so four stores obviously you just need to slap down an ecm and your done stealthing the place, but what if instead your running with a group of people. Just have one person get the atms and the other three run around and lock down the area. Makes it really easy and gives you all the time you need to wait for the van. Someone got c4? Nice, more money from the safes.
Nightclub

You can actually shave 30 seconds off of what i did for this by putting on your masks placing the first ecm then running through the front door killing the gangster patrolling it. Then proceed like you would normally, killing every gangster and camera. I'd recommend getting together a group though, because solo-ing this is a pain, because from here you have to run around after killing every gangster and pray that one of them have the keycard. Then you have to open one of the possible three doors that can spawn. And pray that there's a safe downstairs or upstairs. Picklock the safe or if you don't have that skill wait for the drill to finish. Again recommend a team so you can get c4, and a saw to open the doors for maximum effect on this speed run.
Framing Frame Day 3

OMG I Failed! I wasn't careful and a guard caught me, he opened fired and now we all have to suicide so we can restart. BY BON JOVI YOU GUYS ARE DUMB! Or perhaps you haven't learned better, yet... Either way this video covers what you do IF a guard open fires on you. It honestly isn't that big of a deal. Just keep your pants on Simon (Cowell), You'll live and it's easy to recorver IF your calm and know what your doing.
5 Comments
FaithfulHippie 14 Dec, 2013 @ 11:07am 
Alpha, thanks for this awesome guide! I've been using normal stealth tactics a lot, but since I found out about masterminding from this guide, well, it perfectly fits my playstyle. Instead of having to wait minutes which feel like hours until a guard is at a spot where i can take him out stealthy i right now just do it in seconds.
Great job, mate!
{Strangecraft 4 Nov, 2013 @ 5:44pm 
+1 and kudos. You displayed and explained a fast and effective kind of tactics and playstyle that many gamers can take and learn from to adapt to thier own way of doing it. Thank and nice work.
BraidCutter 3 Nov, 2013 @ 9:33pm 
In the nightclub video you executed quite a few civs, had you bought the "bad music" asset you would have saved money. And we both know you have skills to get it at half price.
BraidCutter 3 Nov, 2013 @ 9:31pm 
I would argue that you are not stealthing these. Most of the "pro-stealth" you rag on in your guide are Ghosts who have taken out a level in Mastermind. You are a Mastermind who has taken out a level in Ghost. You are good, no doubt, even the best I've seen but what you do is masterminding not stealthing. Granted far to many people, myself included, treat the mastermind skill set as a secondary grab bag for the other classes. But you do Masterminding an injustices by comparing what you do to stealthing.
mirC 2 Nov, 2013 @ 2:41am 
thanks for guide