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BUILDS! SO MANY BUILDS!
By uncle geldgeil
Containing the majority of my Builds, that includes DS/OD, Crime Spree Builds for 1k to infinite, Holdout, Stealth and some DS/OD Solo no AI/Downs Builds.

I am sorry for anybody that feels like I have stolen their builds, or have a very similar Build. All of these Builds are made up by myself apart from the Kingpin M1014 and Kingpin Goliath Builds, those 2 were inspired by my good pal SolidGrinch. And also mrcreepy helped me out with some DS/OD Anarchist/Hacker Builds.

I feel like I should mention this here already; I won't use Swan Song in any of my DS/OD Builds, I see that skill as a total waste of skillpoints, I only will use it on my Crime Spree Builds.

I also of course will try to constantly update this Guide and add some more Builds in the future maybe.
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11 Jun, 2020 @ 1:30pm
30 Jan, 2021 @ 9:18am
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Guide Index
Overview
Changelog 
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Stealth Build 
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DS/OD Team Builds 
Armorer DMR 
Armorer Sniper Graze 
Anarchist AMCAR 
Anarchist AR 
Anarchist Izhma 
Crew Chief Vertex 
Muscle LMG 
Hacker Izhma 
Kingpin LMG 
Kingpin Akimbo Goliaths 
Kingpin M1014 
Kingpin Safehouse Nightmare 
Kingpin Boom Box 
Rogue Akimbo Pistols 
Sicario Desertfox 
Stoic Akimbo Goliath 
Stoic Akimbo SMG 101 
Stoic M1014 
Stoic ICTV 
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DS/OD Solo No AI Builds 
Stoic ICTV Crits 
Kingpin Akimbo Goliath 
Anarchist Izhma 
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Holdout Builds 
Non Sentry Setup 
Sentry Setup 
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Crime Spree Build (1k - 20k) 
Anarchist Thanatos 
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Crime Spree Builds (20k - infinite) 
Anarchist ECM 
Anarchist C4 
Anarchist Ammo Bag GL 
Sicario Objective Build 
Hacker Non-DLC C4 
Rogue Non-DLC 
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End 
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Changelog
  • 12th June 2020:
    Added Changelog
    Changed multiplied Screenshots on certain Builds
    Added missing Header on a few Weapon Texts

  • 14th June 2020:
    Improved Stealth Build
    Updated End Section

  • 15th June 2020:
    Added "Stoic Akimbo SMG 101" Build

  • 19th June 2020:
    Added "Hacker Izhma" Build
    Overhaul to the majority of my Team DS/OD Builds by improving the Skilltrees

  • 20th June 2020:
    Updated "Sicario Desertfox" Build

  • 14th August 2020:
    Improved a few Builds by changing out skills
    Fixed "Sicario Desertfox" description

  • 7th October 2020:
    Changed Guide Icon to GIF

  • 30th January 2021:
    Overhaul/Improvement to certain Builds
    Removed "Armorer Sniper Crits" and "Stoic Suit" because I think those 2 Builds aren't good enough
    Added "Rogue Akimbo Pistols" Build
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Apparently some people cannot see certain images in this guide? I am sorry about that, if you cannot see images, then it's Steam's fault, I didn't forget a single one. If you cannot see certain images, please contact me so I can send you the skillset via DM.
Stealth Build
I am not a stealth player so I only got 1 stealth build for ya.
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Primary - Grom Sniper Rifle

Modded with:
  • Tikho Barrel
  • Concealment Boost
  • Lightweight Foregrip
  • Iron Sight
  • Lightweight Stock

Secondary - Judge Shotgun

Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • The Silent Killer Suppressor
  • Concealment Boost
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)


Melee
Anything with 30 concealment (not tasers)

Throwable
Pocket ECM

Deployables
Primary: Trip Mine
Secondary: ECM-Jammer
(optional)

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
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DS/OD Team Builds
Armorer DMR
Lose Armor and 2 Seconds, shot yourself with the Compact GL to get 98-100% Berserker, that allows you to get Breakpoints for Heavy Zeals with the AMR-16
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Primary - AMR-16 Rifle
Modded with:
  • DMR Kit
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Stability Boost
  • Auto Fire (optional)
  • Long Ergo Foregrip
  • LED Combo
  • Rubber Grip
  • THRUST Lower Receiver
  • Speed Pull Magazine
  • Speculator Sight
  • 2 Piece Stock
  • LW Upper Receiver

Secondary - Compact 40mm Grenade Launcher

Modded with:
  • LED Combo
  • Surgeon Sight

Melee
Shinsakuto Katana

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Ammo Bag

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
Armorer Sniper Graze
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Primary - Contractor .308 Sniper Rifle


Modded with:
  • Contractor Silencer
  • Accuracy Boost
  • LED Combo
  • Pro Grip
  • Speculator Sight
  • War-Torn Stock

Secondary - Krinkov Submachine Gun


Modded with:
  • Tactical Compensator
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • Scope Mount
  • Moscow Special Rail
  • LED Combo
  • AK Plastic Grip
  • Speed Pull Magazine
  • Speculator Sight
  • Classic Stock

Melee
Shinsakuto Katana

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
Anarchist AMCAR
amcar op
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Primary - AMCAR Rifle


Modded with:
  • The Bigger the Better suppressor
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • LED Combo
  • Pro Grip
  • Speed Pull Magazine
  • Speculator Sight
  • War-Torn Stock

Secondary - Locomotive 12G Shotgun


Modded with:
  • Dragon's Breath Round
  • King's Crown Compensator
  • LED Combo
  • Rubber Grip
  • Extended Magazine
  • Shell Rack
Melee
Shinsakuto Katana

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Anarchist AR
-
Primary - Union 5.56 Rifle


Modded with:
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Compact Laser Module
  • Speed Pull Magazine
  • Surgeon Sight

Secondary - China Puff 40mm Grenade Launcher


Modded with:
  • Concealment Boost
  • Riot Stock

Melee
Ice Pick

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Anarchist Izhma
Shoutouts to mrcreepy
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Primary - Izhma 12G Shotgun


Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • Short Barrel
  • The Silent Killer Suppressor
  • Concealment Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • Hollow Handle
  • AK Rubber Grip
  • Skeletal Stock

Secondary - Judge Shotgun


Modded with:
  • HE Round
  • The Silent Killer Suppressor
  • Concealment Boost
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)

Melee
Ice Pick

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Crew Chief Vertex
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Primary - GL40 Grenade Launcher


Modded with:
  • Sawed-off Stock (optional)

Secondary - Kross Vertex Submachine Gun


Modded with:
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • LED Combo
  • Speculator Sight
  • War-Torn Stock

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
First aid Kit

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
Muscle LMG
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Primary - Buzzsaw 42 Light Machine Gun

Modded with:
  • Light Barrel
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Lion Bipod
  • Accuracy Boost
  • LED Combo

Secondary - Compact 40mm Grenade Launcher

Modded with:
  • LED Combo
  • Surgeon Sight

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
Hacker Izhma
shoutouts to mrcreepy
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Primary - Izhma 12G Shotgun


Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • Short Barrel
  • The Silent Killer Suppressor
  • Concealment Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • Hollow Handle
  • AK Rubber Grip
  • Skeletal Stock

Secondary - Locomotive 12G Shotgun


Modded with:
  • Dragon's Breath Round
  • Concealment Boost
  • Straight Grip
  • Extended Magazine
  • Tactical Shorty Stock

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Pocket ECM

Deployables
First aid Kit

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Kingpin LMG
-
Primary - Brenner-21 Light Machine Gun
(or any other LMG, just trying to get a bit of a variety with LMG's)


Modded with:
  • Long Barrel
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Lion Bipod
  • Accuracy Boost
  • LED Combo
  • Ergo Grip
Secondary - Compact 40mm Grenade Launcher

Modded with:
  • LED Combo
  • Surgeon Sight

Melee
Shinsakuto Katana

Throwable
Injector

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Heavy Ballistic Vest

Perk Deck
Kingpin Akimbo Goliaths
This one is heavily inspired by my good pal SolidGrinch, same as the Kingpin M1014 Build.
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Primary - Akimbo Goliath 12G Shotguns


Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • Short Barrel
  • Concealment Boost
  • Compact Laser Module

Secondary - Judge Shotgun


Modded with:
  • HE Round
  • Concealment Boost
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Injector

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Light Ballistic Vest

Perk Deck
Kingpin M1014
This one is heavily inspired by my good pal SolidGrinch, same as the Kingpin Akimbo Goliath Build.
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Primary - M1014 Shotgun


Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • Long Barrel
  • Donald's Horizontal Leveller
  • Concealment Boost
  • Compact Laser Module
  • Collapsed Stock
Secondary - Judge Shotgun


Modded with:
  • HE Round
  • Concealment Boost
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Injector

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Light Ballistic Vest

Perk Deck
Kingpin Safehouse Nightmare
HRL-7 is better than Commando, shut up plx
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Primary - Thanatos .50 cal Sniper Rifle


Modded with:
  • Tank Buster Barrel
  • Total Ammo Boost
  • LED Combo
  • Pro Grip
  • Milspec Scope

Secondary - HRL-7 Rocket Launcher


Modded with:
  • Speculator Sight

Melee
Ice Pick

Throwable
Injector

Deployables
Primary : Ammo Bag
Secondary : Medic Bag
(Depends on Team Loadout)

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
Kingpin Boom Box
haha rocket go boom
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Primary - Buzzsaw 42 Light Machine Gun


Modded with:
  • Light Barrel
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Lion Bipod
  • Stability Boost
  • LED Combo


Secondary - Commando 101 Rocket Launcher


Melee
Shinsakuto Katana

Throwable
Injector

Deployables
Ammo Bag

Armor
Light Ballistic Vest

Perk Deck
Rogue Akimbo Pistols
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Primary - Akimbo Stryk 18C Pistols


Modded with:
  • Flash Hider
  • Stability Boost
  • Micro Laser
  • Ergo Grip
  • Extended Magazine

Secondary - 5/7 AP Pistol


Modded with:
  • TiN Treated Barrel
  • Facepunch Compensatort
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Micro Laser
  • Extended Magazine
  • SKOLD Reflex Micro Sight

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
First Aid Kit

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Sicario Desertfox
-
Primary - Desertfox Sniper Rifle


Modded with:
  • Silenced Barrel
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Riktpunkt 45 Degree Sight
  • Speculator Sight

Secondary - Micro Uzi


Modded with:
  • Custom Barrel
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Micro Laser
  • No Stock

Melee
Ice Pick

Throwable
Sicario Smoke Bomb

Deployables
First aid Kit

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Stoic Akimbo Goliath
The Best DS/OD Build in terms of both Survival ability and Damage output at once.
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Primary - Akimbo Goliath 12G Shotguns


Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • Short Barrel
  • Concealment Boost
  • Compact Laser Module

Secondary - Judge Shotgun


Modded with:
  • HE Round
  • Concealment Boost
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Stoic Hip Flask

Deployables
First aid Kit

Armor
Heavy Ballistic Vest

Perk Deck
Stoic Akimbo SMG 101
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Primary - Akimbo Krinkov Submachine Guns


Modded with:
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • Moscow Special Rail
  • LED Combo
  • AK Wooden Grip
  • Speed Pull Magazine

Secondary - Commando 101 Rocket Launcher


Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Stoic Hip Flask

Deployables
Primary : Ammo Bag
Secondary : First aid Kit

Armor
Heavy Ballistic Vest

Perk Deck
Stoic M1014
-
Primary - M1014 Shotgun


Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • Long Barrel
  • Donald's Horizontal Leveller
  • Concealment Boost
  • Compact Laser Module
  • Collapsed Stock
Secondary - Judge Shotgun


Modded with:
  • HE Round
  • Concealment Boost
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Stoic Hip Flask

Deployables
First aid Kit

Armor
Light Ballistic Vest

Perk Deck
Stoic ICTV
basicly immortal
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Primary - KSP Light Machine Gun


Modded with:
  • Long Barrel
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Lion Bipod
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Railed Foregrip
  • LED Combo
  • Solid Stock

Secondary - Compact 40mm Grenade Launcher


Modded with:
  • LED Combo
  • Surgeon Sight

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Stoic Hip Flask

Deployable
First aid Kit

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
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DS/OD Solo No AI Builds
Stoic ICTV Crits
In my opinion, this is possibly the best Solo Build, how so? I beat Goat Simulator DS/OD Solo No AI/Downs with this.
I just went for Saw as Secondary in that run, nothing much of a change in the skills.
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Primary - KSP Light Machine Gun


Modded with:
Long Barrel
The Bigger the Better Suppressor
Lion Bipod
Accuracy Boost
Railed Foregrip
LED Combo
Solid Stock

Secondary - Commando 101 Rocket Launcher


Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Stoic Hip Flask

Deployable
First aid Kit

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
Kingpin Akimbo Goliath
I like to use this for FSS MAX Solo No AI/Downs/Deployable Runs
Modded with:
-
Primary - Akimbo Goliath


Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • Short Barrel
  • Concealment Boost
  • Compact Laser Module

Secondary - Judge Shotgun


Modded with:
  • HE Round
  • Concealment Boost
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)

Melee
Ice Pick

Throwable
Injector

Deployables
Nothing

Armor
Light Ballistic Vest

Perk Deck
Anarchist Izhma
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Primary - Izhma 12G Shotgun


Modded with:
  • 000 Buckshot
  • Short Barrel
  • The Silent Killer Suppressor
  • Concealment Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • Hollow Handle
  • AK Rubber Grip
  • Wide Stock

Secondary - Judge Shotgun


Modded with:
  • HE Round
  • The Silent Killer Suppressor
  • Concealment Boost
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)

Melee
Ice Pick

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Nothing

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
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Holdout Builds
Non Sentry Setup
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Primary - Buzzsaw 42 Light Machine Gun


Modded with:
  • Light Barrel
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Lion Bipod
  • Stability Boost
  • LED Combo

Secondary - Locomotive 12G Shotgun


Modded with:
  • Dragon's Breath Round
  • Team Boost (optional)
  • Rubber Grip
  • Extended Magazine
  • Tactical Shorty Stock
  • Shell Rank

Melee
Ice Pick

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Medic Bag

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
Sentry Setup
-
Primary - Buzzsaw 42 Light Machine Gun


Modded with:
  • Light Barrel
  • The Bigger the Better Suppressor
  • Lion Bipod
  • Stability Boost
  • LED Combo

Secondary - China Puff 40mm Grenade Launcher


Modded with:
  • Riot Stock (optional)

Melee
Ice Pick

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Primary : Sentry Gun
Secondary : Ammo Bag or Suppressed Sentry Gun

Armor
Improved Combined Tactical Vest

Perk Deck
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Crime Spree Build (1k - 20k)
Anarchist Thanatos
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Primary - Thanatos .50 cal Sniper Rifle


Modded with:
  • Tank Buster Barrel
  • Total Ammo Boost
  • LED Combo
  • Pro Grip
  • Milspec Scope

Secondary - Grimm 12G Shotgun

Modded with:
  • Dragon's Breath Round
  • Auto Fire
  • Little Brother Foregrip
  • Big Brother Magazine

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Primary : Ammo Bag
Secondary : Medic Bag
(Depends on Heist)

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
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Crime Spree Builds (20k - infinite)
Some of these next Builds sure work for CS Rank of 1k to 20k as well. But they are supposed to only played above 20k, so I think its better having them in a seperate list.
Anarchist ECM
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Primary - OVE9000 Saw


Modded with:
  • Total Ammo Boost
  • Fast Motor
  • Sharp Blade


Secondary - Grimm 12G Shotgun

Modded with:
  • Dragon's Breath Round
  • Auto Fire
  • Little Brother Foregrip
  • Big Brother Magazine

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Primary : ECM-Jammer
Secondary : Medic Bag

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Anarchist C4
-
Primary - Izhma 12G Shotgun


Modded with:
  • Dragon's Breath Round
  • Short Barrel
  • Auto Fire
  • Hollow Handle
  • AK Rubber Grip
  • Big Brother Magazine
  • Skeletal Stock


Secondary - Judge Shotgun


Modded with:
  • HE Round
  • Custom Reinforced Frame (optional)

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Primary : Trip Mine
Secondary : Medic Bag

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Anarchist Ammo Bag GL
-
Primary - Piglet Grenade Launcher


Modded with:
  • Incendiary Round
  • Short Barrel
  • No Stock

Secondary - MA-17 Flamethrower


Modded with:
  • Total Ammo Boost
  • Low Temperature Mixture

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Primary : Ammo Bag
Secondary : Medic Bag
(this is Heist depended)

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Sicario Objective Build
-
Primary - Izhma 12G Shotgun


Modded with:
  • Dragon's Breath Round
  • Short Barrel
  • Concealment Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • Hollow Handle
  • AK Rubber Grip
  • Big Brother Magazine
  • Skeletal Stock


Secondary - Grimm 12G Shotgun

Modded with:
  • Dragon's Breath Round
  • Concealment Boost
  • Auto Fire
  • Little Brother Foregrip
  • Big Brother Magazine

Melee
Buzzer (optional)

Throwable
Smoke Bomb

Deployables
Primary : ECM-Jammer
Secondary : Medic Bag

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Hacker Non-DLC C4
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Primary - OVE9000 Saw


Modded with:
  • Total Ammo Boost
  • Fast Motor
  • Sharp Blade


Secondary - MA-17 Flamethrower


Modded with:
  • Total Ammo Boost
  • Low Temperature Mixture

Melee
Electrical Brass Knuckles (optional)

Throwable
Pocket ECM

Deployables
Primary : Trip Mine
Secondary : Medic Bag

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
Rogue Non-DLC
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Primary - OVE9000 Saw


Modded with:
  • Total Ammo Boost
  • Fast Motor
  • Sharp Blade

Secondary - MA-17 Flamethrower


Modded with:
  • Total Ammo Boost
  • Low Temperature Mixture

Melee
Electrical Brass Knuckles (optional)

Throwable
Concussion Grenade

Deployables
Primary : ECM-Jammer
Secondary : Medic Bag

Armor
Two-Piece Suit

Perk Deck
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End
  • Huge shoutout to Yokai for providing me these amazing transparent images with the shadow on each weapon <3 thank you so much

  • Thank you Carrot for giving me advices/improving most of my DS/OD Team Builds

  • Thank you mrcreepy for helping me with some DS/OD Anarchist Builds and the DS/OD Hacker Build


My Youtube-Channel if you are interested, I post all kind of things of Payday 2, ranging from Stream Compilations to certain challenge runs on both DS/OD and High Crime Spree (32Million).


Feel Free to ask Questions, I will try to answer as best as possible


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86 Comments
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enslaved kurdistan 31 Dec, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
community needs u so bad boss
Shrike 26 Mar, 2024 @ 6:21am 
I am not sure what to use as replacement for the classic stock. If anyone knows which is the best replace please tell me because I AM NOT GETTING that damn achivement.
DEFIVRILATE 11 Mar, 2024 @ 8:05pm 
Is there any drawback to me getting shotgun impact aced
uncle geldgeil  [author] 20 Jan, 2024 @ 2:14pm 
I dunno, as you said I guess tombstone is better on high CS now, I haven't touched this game in a while so I cant confirm anything and I cannot be bothered to update stuff as well
TheRealHer0 20 Jan, 2024 @ 2:07pm 
never mind they removed all stun affects from crime spree
TheRealHer0 14 Jan, 2024 @ 7:01pm 
Are tombstone slugs good enough to replace DB for crime spree?
uncle geldgeil  [author] 8 Nov, 2023 @ 8:42am 
Yea don't worry, everyone makes mistakes lol. I am pretty used to it as well as a lot of people give their opinions or try to give improvements to my builds but in the end they dont really make anything better.
Samoth_Five 7 Nov, 2023 @ 4:54pm 
I have to admit i do not know anything about making a build or whats good for Crime Spree. I probably should have started with that instead of being a dick for an paragraph.
uncle geldgeil  [author] 7 Nov, 2023 @ 8:26am 
Here I can give you another example: You say that the joker is useless because it dies in 2 seconds, yea sure maybe on Death Sentence but not on Crime Spree. The Health Modifier EASILY outclasses the DMG Modififer for the cops, going for any more skills for jokers is just pointless, doesnt make them stronger because of 512 Granularity.

Feel Free to ask question though, I am more than glad to help out.

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uncle geldgeil  [author] 7 Nov, 2023 @ 8:26am 
I dont really mind when someone gives some advice on builds, thats all good. But I do mind when someone tries to give "advice" without knowing for what the build was made for, it is a crime spree build for 1k - 20k. Grimm is being used to stun the cops, not kill them. You don't kill on high crime spree, you just stun them. The Thanatos purely exists to kill enemies that have to be killed like the snipers on panic room, or to kill individual cops that really give you a hard time, but thats about it. On higher ranks like 500k a flamethrower does this job instead of the Thanatos. There is a good reason for that which I am not going to explain.

Please next time when you try to critique something go study about the build first and see for what its intended for and see if it actually works.

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