Frostpunk

Frostpunk

Most Compact Early Coal Production
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steemy gaymer 26 Jan, 2023 @ 4:08pm 
All resources influence others to some degree. The cost in food is to me, roughly equal to the benefit of faster healing what overcrowding is an effectively free doubling of healthcare, plus when population is small the more engineers you have free the better. You could argue the same thing for houses of healing, but by the time you have the law time to get them you usually have enough engineers already, and they are pretty mediocre overall, except on fall of winterhome.

Plus late game kinda.. doesn't matter in frostpunk. Once you're firmly on your feet, with resource streams coming in the whole game slows down and becomes pretty solidly easy mode.

Also your argument for order is that its worse at completing the story objective which is extremely funny, I more care about how its buildings don't need to be staffed or heated, and easy access to shrines.
Laguna Queen  [author] 26 Jan, 2023 @ 6:59am 
Both of your options work but doesn't give much benefit in the late game, similar to getting bank interest. The only exception is Survivor Winterhome when both of your options are needed.

1. Overcrowding still means that there are many who cannot work and cripples early production. When population is small, there is only one choice of having the ill work with the risk of dying. Storms further wreck havoc in endless mode during the first few weeks.
2. Faith is more centered on Hope that decreases with each death that does not happen in my guides. They also have a scripted death when using the House of Healing but lacks the same quality healing as an infirmary.

Order still works in New Home and ending the Londoners scenario too soon give much less time to prepare for the giant storm. It may sound weird to have many Londoners but few are needed on the last day to buy more time.
steemy gaymer 25 Jan, 2023 @ 7:16pm 
Ah that would be why you had to rely on inferior coal thumpers. 1: overcrowding way better its like one emergency shift in exchange for twice as efficient engineers. 2: order is for nerds faith is way better on every scenario, I get all the londoners to stay without even getting faith keepers every time, its great.
Laguna Queen  [author] 23 Jan, 2023 @ 6:52pm 
I was thinking why I delayed coal mines. It's because I went order and also went extra food rations for the ill. Those two alone eats up about double or triple food. Lots of food-eating abilities for efficiency boosts.

Also, gathering posts and thumpers with foremen and agitators give a tremendous boost until more steam cores are obtained for those coal mines.
steemy gaymer 20 Jan, 2023 @ 4:13pm 
Nah survivor mode on new home, refugees, arks, and on the edge without steam thumpers. I've also done rifts builder without using them and I've probably done extreme endurance at some point.
I personally never use hothouses, and I actually do wall drill and then either coal mine or infirmiries depending on what I need.
(I have completed all(including endless) but fall of winterhome without anyone dying)
Laguna Queen  [author] 18 Jan, 2023 @ 4:18pm 
So you rushed to build those at the cost of building Hothouses and Infirmaries? Was this still Endless Endurance?
steemy gaymer 18 Jan, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
I've beat the game on the hardest difficulty with just coal mines they're pretty good at what they do.
Laguna Queen  [author] 12 Jan, 2023 @ 6:49pm 
Anyone can build a coal mine and that doesn't require any special building organization like coal thumpers. Even coal mines aren't enough until late game with the caveat that you live long enough for it.
steemy gaymer 12 Jan, 2023 @ 6:14pm 
No the most compact early coal production is a coal mine, no idea how you got this one wrong.
Laguna Queen  [author] 4 Dec, 2022 @ 5:07am 
Yes but no to automaton. Employment at buildings become scarce in late game. You should read the guides since everything is explained there.