Just an example, for standard origin a balanced start is fine, but give a ringworld start that many ressources and you will have NO CHANCE whatsoever if you are not on one either.

i might need to rethink the concept, because origins are inherently different, so it is only balanced for the most basic origin so to speak.

After a couple of testgames, i will see what i can do

Mod still works with 2.6.1.

will this work with 2.5?

Mod has been updated to 2.4.x

Looks like ill redo the mod with some fresh files apparently more changed than was visible on first glance

Oh, and you have the same issue in distant_stars_initializers.txt too

line 3873: add_anomaly = DISTAR_MED_CAT
line 3914: add_anomaly = DISTAR_MED_CAT
line 3985: add_anomaly = DISTAR_POD_CAT

i shall :) thx for helping

One last thing.

I noticed in special_system_initializers.txt, the lines right before the # Trappist System flag (line 2327 in your mod) have

add_anomaly = CRYSTAL_MANUFACTORY_CAT

but in vanilla (as of 2.3.3), this has been changed to

add_anomaly = {
category = CRYSTAL_MANUFACTORY_CAT
}

The former (what is currently in your special_system_initializers.txt) is no longer valid syntax, and will not work. You need to update it to the scoped category version.

Actually, it looks like the current contents of solar_system_initializers is
custom_starting_initializers.txt
distant_stars_initializers.txt
empire_initializers.txt
special_system_initializers.txt


prescripted_species_systems.txt isn't in the mod anymore

I wanted to balance the galaxy as much as possible multi world systems with really good worlds randomly popping up somewhere is really good for the one person who finds it. Not for anybody else...

You are right i forgot to mention it. my bad :)

Also, special_system_initializers.txt (where Trappist was changed to never spawn) is not listed as a file in your description, despite it being in your mod.

Just curious. What was the rational for blacklisting the generation of the Trappist System entirely? Was 4 settleable planets just way too good to leave up to RNG?

its probably still working ill have a look in a bit though. But if you want to play, just try out if it works. If it does there wont be any problems later on.

Any plans to update this mod for 2.3?

You should be able to. Just move the slider, and it will override the default setting which is invisible but set to 0.05.
If it does not change the planets to your desired amount, let me know. But to my best knowledge thats how the slider usually works.

So I can no longer affect the amount of Habitables with the game setup slider? It's fixed to 0.05 by this mod?

Mod has been updated with new mechanics to make a really balanced start possible. description has been changed accordingly

Hi, could you please upload the 2.1.3 version of this mod? Thanks!

Another quick balance mod: Galactic market ressource exploit fix
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1587978273

For all of you who dont like easy cheeeeze in a multiplayer game with money cheats

Trade is not a fair start option for hives. They cannot use it. Id prefer stuff everybody can use. It would just be a bonus to everyone but those that dont trade: aka the bad guys

Definatly a nice help to early stage expansion. Though I have to ask, is there a way to put some trade value into the systems as well? Not in the same numbers as the energy/minerals of course, but 4 or 5 would be nice.

On the fundamental side of things its using the exact same functionality than before just paradox changed the amount of ressources you get as a bonus in your homesystem. Ill playtest a bit more and see if it really is too much. It certainly achieves the "balanced start" this way cause the random factors are gone but maybe you are right and its on a bit too high level

I've just tried out the updated version of this mod, and I have to say, I don't like it. It feels excessive. So I'm disabling it again... It'll be interesting to see if others share my opinion.

Mod is ready to rumble for 2.2 enjoy everybody :)

Wow, Steam, the picture was the reason...really now? from one upload to another the very same picture all of a sudden is too big *sigh* well ladies and gents...mod is updated, enjoy and kick some alien ass *g

The mod works fine in 2.1 btw :) Trying to update the version number but steam is being a dumbass and wont let me for some weird reason, will update asap.

A good question :) try it out ;)
i will have a look during the weekend, aint got time to check any sooner

Given that 2.1 changes the map generation algorithm, is this mod compatible with 2.1?

To be honest I dont know :) i would assume so...

Nicely done! Quick question, does this affect acheivements?

@Doomwarrior, Many thanks, I get why my question doesn't make sense, I was confused about how the mods work.

I have added the files i am using in the mod to the description above. I cannot tell you what you want to know but you can have a look if they use the same files. If so there is a potential conflict and one of the two might start having issues

how does this work with starting system mods or other mods that change neighbouring stystems like Damocles66's Workshop's Ruined megastructures neighbour

There was a reference to some functions about hyperlanes, connections, counting the hops afaik in the patch notes, have a look there. Not sure what you want to achieve though

As fellow modder I could not find any option to force cluster FTL lines orund initilased systems... do you have any luck with that?

Little Report from our 9 ppl MP round: it really is not advisable to play less than 1.0 hyperlanes especially not in small maps. Creates way too many situations where people are blocked off. 1.0 is pretty good for hyperlanes. The balanced Start however worked like a charm, even until midgame everyone was pretty well balanced. Everybody enjoyed that a lot

Thank you! My first game in Apocalypse didn't go very well, due to spawning next to someone with much better energy deposits, and a gateway.

Ended up getting wiped out by 2260, and in my second game to actually get the loop event chain x.x

i think that can be done... ill think about it. This is the first iteration i hope i can improve on it in the future. Proposals are always nice though

I was looking for something like this, though I wish it also balanced the starting planet so that everyone has at least 20 tiles.

We are trying it now in a 9 ppl match :)

Seems to be good base for MP games.