Doesn't launch. I don't think Shieldwall would be interested in this. They take very different directions. The character system here is very complicated and is probably going to take weeks to fix.

That's too bad. Have you thought about turning any of your work over to the Shieldwall team? They're a major mod that still updates.

is this working @Thezuma?

Will this make it so the men you make into governors won't automatically turn into ungrateful bastards whose Loyalty goes down to '2' the very instant they become governors?

@Noego I sadly don't have time for modding anymore, so yes, consider it abandoned.

Hello. It looks like an interesting modification to the game, one of the best I could find here. I really would like to try it, but it won't launch. Is there any update from the author coming soon? Or is it officially abandoned and we shouldn't expect any updates?

update Plz

Main reason was mostly due to the estates ctd

I switched back to the allegiance patch will this work?

@Jesus_Christ Sorry to disappoint you, but the mod is not up-to-date, nor am I really interested in modding ToB anymore

@💝Silver_Knight_⚔ It's not even compatible with the game...

I can't wait to try out this mod. I like all the features and your vision of this mod. The increase in difficulty through actions is a very nice touch and exactly what was needed vs the poor AI. I look forward in trying out this mod and hopefully will become a must have mod for ToB. Kudos for the hard work! PS: I noticed the recent update from the game revamped the combat system to a more predictable and boring mechanic. The sheer unknowingnes of the distribution of the (more elite) units made the games more divers and tension filled. Is there a chance of a submod of any kind to revert it back to the original one, even edited to tailor to the mod, if must be.

@TheZuma is this compatible with Radious?

How about moving the followers to the trait collection as well? Never liked the level up feature for the generals since Shogun

Please, can you make a mod who I can give or receive cities. For example, when I will be win a war, I want to be able to choose the city that I want and the city that I don't want.

@TheZuma How are things progressing with that update of yours?

@DarkKing0925 I am well aware of that... The update will take a while, since a lot has been changed in the newest patch.

update

What difficulty do you recommend playing this on? I had such a breeze in vanilla ToB on legendary now I come into this, play it on very hard and I've got civil wars popping up everywhere right after turn 1!

@the zuma hey man not a worry at all! great work on your mods! i wouldnt be playing ToB without it!! no complaints at all!

@Drop_it_ @FireWaterFriday What you say os very true Drop_It, sorry for the late reply. The seperate parts has been updated, to be more balanced. There's also a light version. The reason why I'm not balancing this mod, is very simple - Steam will because of unknown reasons not let me update this mod. So indeed, downloading all the other parts, should create a more balanced game, it's probably save-game-compatible too, I can't guarentee that though.

@firewaterfriday download the mod seperate as opposed to this one its super fun im like 550 turns into my capaign and im very pleased with this mod its one of the only ones i have going other than battle and camera mods

Drop_it_ "has this been balanced with the update they released?"
I have the same question, I exclusively play on legendary cuz ive played total war for ages, sorry not trying to be a douche xD im gonna try on just very hard, but playing as the welsh or northumbria is like impossible. Thats the main reason i love this mod tho xD. Keep up the good work home skillet

has this been balanced with the update they released?

If your faction leader has more than 10 Influence, the scaling faction buff/debuff to Public Order, Fame and diplomacy vanishes entirely, and moving your cursor over the Influence bar in the Family Tree screen crashes the game.

Hey Zuma ! Is that this mod features: attrition give -5 supply penalty ? even if i withdraw army to the main settlement, even is +food there?? my army dont start replenish about this -5 supply system ! WHY attrition (loss men>eat few) penalish so high ?? where can i found this value, i will modify myself. thx.

Sounsd very good, will give this a try.

By the way, its Disloyal, not Illoyal lol

@TheZuma and just to update on that original point I brought up about the economists, weirdly on some armies it has made an effect, but most it doesn't still. Must be other penalties that I'm not seeing.

@TheZuma any ideas what I'm doing wrong here, it seems that every child in my family who comes of age has massively more influence than my king. Like my king has 11 and these guys are coming of age with 38 plus influence and so they rebel the turn after they come of age and there is nothing i can do to appease them. It unfortunately means that the 3rd and 4th generations of my faction have all been killed on the battlefield by their fathers, uncles, grandfathers etc. it kind'a means my faction is going to die out soon, of old age I mean lol. Any clue what's happened?

@mazz26 Thank you for your kind words ^^ The odd thing is that this mod is the only mod I cannot update.
Indeed feel free to leave suggestions!

@TheZuma, how strange, so once you upload a mod to steam, you can't edit it anymore? How annoying for you. Like I said though, it's only a tiny thing with the general's economist not working, the rest of the mod is working fine it seems, and as I said, turns the game from great to superb in my opinion, keep up the hard work. :) If I think of anything else for your v 2.0 I will mention it. Cheers buddy

@Spikio Try subscribing to the seperate followers mod together with this, see if that changes anything

@mazz26 Damn, hadn't noticed that for myself... See, my problem is, I am for some reason not allowed to update this mod. Steam will not let me do it, even though I've tried getting around it through several ways with no success. The idea with doubled research sounds like a good idea too, but the same problem still stands. I may make a K&P: 2 with all those fixes, but I feel like the mod needs some more content first

Also one idea that might be balance the research out a bit, since I have found all my tech trees open from turn 1, would be if you maybe doubled the research time? or maybe 6 turns. Just an idea

Hi Zuma, I think your mod is excellent. I love Thrones but it was unfortunately slightly too easy. The ideas were great but the negative effects of these new mechanics didn't seem to have an bearing on your progress, your mod adds a new level of strategy and difficulty which is very welcome. However, just one tiny little thing, the economist follower doesn't seem to effect the upkeep of an army at all. It works for governors, you can see your income increase when you select an economist, but for generals it has no effect. I first thought it was because of the negative traits some of my characters have towards unit upkeep, - 15% for example, but I have done 2 or 3 economists which should then at least give a 15% reduction in that army upkeep, but still no effect on my income. Anyone else noticed this?

Dear Zuma. Thank you for this mode. I have one question which is that NEW FOLLOWERS is not working even I tried with Vanila game. Could you please check this problem?

@Humor actually i havent decided which i like best yet but if you put in battle into the search bar the top 5 or 6 will be battle mods you can try out. i also recommend the annimation mod(will be in the list you searched for) as it removes the heart attack BS and has 100% kill annimations. Steel faith has the best mod ive tried for ToB BUT like 75% of that mod lashes with this mod and this mod does it wayy better than steel faith. steel faith is solly good for the battle mod aspect. hope that helps man! P.S i have found if you take out the brutal wars part of this you can have the battle mods active and it wont superseed them anymore.

@Drop_it_ which battle mod u mean ? do you use any useful battle mods already ? pls. link that. thx.

which one of the mods do you think conflicts with the battle mods?<--- its the more impactful wars part. this mod would be so paerfect with a battle mod & ammimation mod(to remove heart attack and to have a more entertaining battle.

@King17 I have split up the mod into pieces now, here's a link to the improved family tree only ;) https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1393093229&searchtext=Kings+and+Politics

Thx. the answer.
1. its nothing wrong for me the upgrade trees unlocking. its fine
2. yes i use CK mod . but i think is work , i just dont get the new followers.

@david Please tell me if it solved your problem :)

@[GREY]Hunor I must admit, I have too encountered myself that my mod unlocks the technology trees, however, it is not on purpose I have yet to figure out why this is occuring. Sorry for the inconvenience.

That's odd, do you have any other mods enabled? If so, list them, I might be able to tell if any of them are interfering with mine. Just to be sure, try looking at the pictures above of the followers to ensure you really don't have them.

Hi Zuma.
I have all updates tree open at first turn(civil and military) it is mod feature ?
the mod working, but i dont seen the new followers, only the vanilla (but the bonuses added)

thank you very much!

@david Try my new light version: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1392770828&searchtext=

well its so bad, my last two sons had influence 40 for example, that Estates and 'secure loyalty' wasnt enough to get them above zero resulting in a civil war.

@david Estates and 'secure loyalty' ;) I may look into it, I however don't have time for modding at the moment, I am currently studying for my exams.

@King17 I may split up my mod into pieces for those like you, who only want parts of it. Though same answer to you, as to David.

Can anyone help me? I am trying to get just the improved family tree that this mod has. I've tried doing it myself but have failed and this is the only mod that offers it :(

I´ve been enyoing the mod greatly, but in my northumbria campaign (around turn 100) I´ve come to a point were every single one of my sons and grandsons has a starting loyalty of 0 (either because they have some stupid high influence like 40 or because their starting loyalty is really low). Its annoying me greatly that I have to kill every single one of my sons, because every single one of them wants to start a civil war.

LOL Skrubs correct

I know this is not too related to the mod, but is it possible to make general's unit mounted? It's weird to see king Alfred running around on foot.