Mod tested with Flagellants VS Marauder Berserkers, results:

mod ON:
-Duration of the fight = 2 min
-Falgellants win narrowly but every time.

mod OFF:
-Duration of the fight = 2 min
-Marauder Berserkers win largely.

So yes, this mod destroys the balance without modifying the duration of the fights. And I'm not even talking about the version of this mod that modifies the damage of the attacks in a non-proportional way. Really to avoid if you want to have a relatively balanced game.

Hi, I tried to change melee attack interval in melee_weapons_tables and there was no difference between 4 and 2 (for example). Is it really works?

For those that want the version of this that @[BT] Chaplain Zuriel is suggesting, you can just load up this mod's .pack file with the Pack File Manager and delete everything under "projectiles_table" in db.

Personally though, I love the OP ranged units.

Yes, but anything SFO changes won't be affected by the mod.

can I use this mod with SFO?

[BT] Chaplain Zuriel, good feedback, i'll look into it if I get the time.

If there was a melee only version, this mod would be perfect.

Ranged units and artillery are extremely op with this mod due to the range and reload buffs the mod gives, making melee units pretty much useless because they just get shot to pieces before even reaching the archer lines of fire In which they get absolutely annihilated as they try to approach the wall of melee units protecting the machine gun crossbows.

Another thing I see wrong with the ranged part of this mod is now Bretonia has the best archers in the game? The peasant archers have a range of 220 up from 160 meanwhile the high elven archers and Sisters of Avelorn have a range of 180 which was their vanilla range. How are peasants outshooting High elves?

It's a really fun mod but the ranged aspect of it could definitely use tweaking, maybe create a melee only version of this mod to make melee viable?

@Chunky Fetus Smoothie,

The values for all ranged units in the game lies in the (data -> db -> "projectiles_table")
All damage, range and reload times are in there.

Hi Mervidium - thanks for this awesome mod. It hugely improves the brutality, immersion, and excitement of melee.

However (for my tastes), ranged and artillery units are hugely OP. E.g, a Luminark of Hysh pumps out 5000 damage in 10 seconds.

Any chance of a melee only version, keeping reload speeds the same as vanilla? If not, could you tell me where I can find the values to make my own? Thanks!

Update PLEASE!!!!

@Code FFA500 That's nothing i've changed, i don't change names or letters, only values such as numbers/intervals.

contact stat effect has "pyromaniac"

a key entry in the projectiles table reads

"wh2_dlc11_character_abilities_pyromanianc"

is (pyromanianc) intentional or a typo

Awesome mod, could you make a intense and no states version for this time update?

I think i will make a version for TWW3, depends on the circumstances. We'll see then, thank you.

Just wanted to say I hope you keep updating this mod for the future, extending even to WH3. I can't thank you enough for making and sharing this. Such a needed concept for everyone that enjoys actually watching the battles!

I notice that this mods also boosts siege tower attacks, literally if you have maxed out castle walls, even if you launch a siege with full siege equipments built, they'll literally be obliterated before they can reach the walls...

Update please

great mod

@௵Pailerr The DCS Check out Brutal Battles

are you able to make the soldiers to fight more chaotic and without restraint, not caring much about holding the line and formations? Or something like more spamming animations that would probably cause them to "mixed" as literally everyone 1v1 in everywhere as the hollywood war movies?

Did post on the main asbas page, will do eventually.

Will this be seeing any further updates?
Sure hope so, it was incredible while it was working!

I really want this mod for units of Radious((((

sfo have legendary unit like everguard
this is cant effected?

i want sfo mod..

Compatible with SFO or not?

Cheers, thanks again.

Thank you for noticing this, i have adressed the issue and should now work correctly.

Just noticed a bug, with Tyrion at least. It's changing his weapon damage from 160 damage/310 armor piercing back to the pre-patch damage of 270 damage/220 armor piercing. Might be affecting more than just him, haven't tested with anyone else.

Thanks again for the update.

ok cool.

Yes, i will update the ASBAS collection when i get home. coming home on Tuesday

will be updating?

@MerVidiuM
this loks to be a great mod I strongly dislike standing around aswell
just one question tough tdoes this not massevely unblance the ranged units in favor to melee combat units?

Thanks for the support :)

@MerVidiuM ah ok, thanks for clarity. Excited for that compatibility patch, combat is so slow in SFO and I think your idea is great and would make for exciting battles!

Every unit hits @ 0 yes.

This mod works with SFO but all the custom units it brings wont be affected.
Also the vanilla units have their normal stats reverted back to its original value even tho SFO tries to change them.

A patch would have to be made, i've work every day as well, a patch might take some time but eventually perhaps.

@ MerVidiuMN also, am I right asuming this imbalances melee to favour what used to be slower attackers like 2H weapons / Halberds etc... as they usually attack slower but hit harder andn ow everyone hits @ speed 0

Is this compatible with SFO now? I notice on the comments in your stats and atk boost version you announced a atk boost only version (this one) but also see @Dino requesitng a SFO version still... can you clarify?

I will help in anyway I can too! Just let me know.

Wow thank you! I'll see what i can do. Might be tricky, i'll try.

Idk if its as easy as copy pasting but I'd be happy to test what it does to SFO and see if the stats are true to the source either way.

@MerVidiuM Alright, I got the go-ahead from the SFO author for you. If you want to make it compatible with SFO, you're free to make a comp version : )

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1154027811 this one i believe

you wouldnt have the link would you been trying to find it havent found anything on it?

The leadership mod is called "no morale & ammunition" I think, black canvas with white text.

what was that leadership mod called?

Exactly Dino, could maybe work.

I think it'd be awesome, even if its unbalanced. But it's entirely up to the modders if they want to do it.