Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

Historical Party Names with Emblems
25 Comments
PzSniper 29 Aug, 2020 @ 3:57am 
Works good but it's NOT compatible with BICE 5.x sadly...
SphereWorld  [author] 15 May, 2019 @ 11:25am 
@aszykmarta It's done. You will find my detailed (tedious) explanation in change notes but I'm afraid the solution is not the same as what you have suggested.
SphereWorld  [author] 13 May, 2019 @ 3:55pm 
@aszykmarta OK, I realised Hungarian party names especially non-aligned and fascist parties are really a mess. But the situation here might looks much more tricky than you might have thought. Besides, I could not change the party leader so that makes things even harder if I want to find a good solution here... Anyway, finding a solution to the Hungarian party names will be this mod's priority for now. Thanks for your suggestion.
SphereWorld  [author] 13 May, 2019 @ 8:58am 
I will take a look at Hungarian parties next. 'pułkowników' has been abandoned since the PEM came out. Instead, this mod simply adopts the PEM's choice of 'Piłsudski's colonels' to be the name of the Polish Non-align party.
Kakaokka_ 13 May, 2019 @ 8:53am 
Also change the NPHM hungarian fascist party to NEP/MEP/Horthy's regency/FGKp cuz Horthy is the leader, or simply change the leader of fascist party to Ferenc Szalasi. Also, the "pułkowników" term is an adjective. The "pułkownicy" term is exact. Sorry for my English.
SphereWorld  [author] 9 May, 2019 @ 9:18am 
Update: now you need to also subscribe to Party Emblem Mod to make it work properly otherwise the ideology emblem (party emblem) for some countries will be missing.
Tea Enjoyer 23 Apr, 2019 @ 9:47am 
good name
Tea Enjoyer 23 Apr, 2019 @ 9:47am 
I think it's good plan
SphereWorld  [author] 23 Apr, 2019 @ 5:57am 
@Hetman
Thank you, this is very helpful. I just read a little bit more and now I would agree that in 1936 Sanacja did not exist just as BBWR. But I don't like naming it as simply 'Military Regime', such common term without any polish flavour. After some searching I seem to have found a great replacement 'pułkowników (colonels)'. What do you think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi%C5%82sudski%27s_colonels?oldformat=true
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupa_pu%C5%82kownik%C3%B3w?oldformat=true
Tea Enjoyer 22 Apr, 2019 @ 10:48pm 
With BBWR you have right, but Sanacja is not a party, but side of political life in Poland.
After Piłsudski started beeing sick he also started punishing the opposition and in 1935 Only BBWR was real legal party.When did collapse real power earn Right Sanation ruling by Polish officers and generals. New Marshall Edward Rydz-Śmigły and old Piłsudski's friend Kazimierz Sosnowski got full power. Ignacy Mościcki in our constitution was the strongest person in country but in reality he was only puppet of Rydz-Śmigły. So I think that in Poland in hoi4 we should have 100% for neutrality.
Tea Enjoyer 22 Apr, 2019 @ 10:48pm 
Because after Śmigły-Rydz got full power they really disolve all the parties in Poland and Army was ruling. Sanacja for me is bad option, because Sanacja was 3 diffrent sides united by Piłsudski -:
Left Sanacja (Piłsudski, after he died, Rydz-Śmigły banned it and inprison memmbers)
Center or "The Castle"- (Mościcki- also banned, but they put Mościcki as a puppet)
Right Sanacja ( Generals and Marshall Śmigły-Rydz)
So in 1936 we hadn't any party in country so this neutrality party for me should be named sometning like Military Regime

SphereWorld  [author] 22 Apr, 2019 @ 1:47pm 
And RNR-Falanga, well, as you said, it split from ONR. I would agree that they should have a far small percentage of popularity at the game start. I support you to suggest this to the official forum. The reason why I renamed it from ONR-Falanga to RNR-Falanga is ONR-Falanga seems to be a less formal name for this party. After all, the full name of the party is 'Ruch Narodowo-Radykalny Falanga' instead of 'Obóz Narodowo-Radykalny Falanga'. You can search these two names and you will understand. I could not find a single example where 'Obóz Narodowo-Radykalny' is put with 'Falanga' together. But I found tons of examples where 'Ruch Narodowo-Radykalny' and 'Falanga' are put together.
SphereWorld  [author] 22 Apr, 2019 @ 1:47pm 
@Hetman

Thanks for giving me this suggestion, but maybe next time take a look at the change notes though because I have had a detailed explanation for almost every important name change including these names that concern you (I'm quite serious, man)

I searched and found every source including polish sources say BBWR was dissolved shortly after Józef Piłsudski died in 1935. That was before the 1936 game start. There was also no similar dominant ruling party emerged after 1935, because his successors from different camps competed with each other for the dominion of the Polish state. Therefore I could only use Sanacja to generally represent this ruling elite.
Tea Enjoyer 22 Apr, 2019 @ 12:15pm 
So I think you shouldn't change this name.
ONR ABC had - 500 members
RNR_Falanga - N/A they were the most illegal organisation in our country and only a few students were in this party

For me 15% for fascist in hoi4 is stupid
Because of this 15% is 14% non-fascist but national democratic from Stronnictwo Narodowe


We wrote few e-mails to Paradox because we had the same problem with Polish Socialist Party as a communist, because they were the biggest opposition for communism and they change it.
Now we are writting emails because Roman Dmowski is Fascist demagoue which is not true because he was democrat and he had military regimes

Tea Enjoyer 22 Apr, 2019 @ 12:15pm 
Guy, in Poland you have two mistakes.
#1 BBWR is right party name. It means Non-ideology Party Cooperating with Goverment
Sanacja is colloquial name or ideology which was making cult of the supreme leader Marshall Piłsudski after he died.
#2 mistake is that ONR-Falanga is right to. In Poland we had nationalist party called "Stronnictwo Narodowe" - National Side. They were national democrats.
The first split in the party to two diffrent sides:
Still - National Side and ONR-Falanga when this parties was legal
The second split was in ONR-Falanga: when BBWR banned ONR

To ONR-Falanga called by scientists ONR ABC - older members of party less radical
And to RNR-Falanga called ONR-Falanga - younger members of the party more radical
(and more banned)

So this two sides are really called ONR-Falanga because RNR-Falnga was only named that way because they broke up. RNR or ONR are the same, first version of ONR have been called RNR too.


SphereWorld  [author] 19 Apr, 2019 @ 12:29pm 
@KARL FRANZ
Of course, I just made it more consistent to other party names by making it abbreviated. I have explained it in the description. Anyway this is not the focus of this mod. This mod corrects many of the incorrect names that have been left by PDX. If you care about historical authenticity, this is the mod for you.
KARL FRANZ 19 Apr, 2019 @ 11:56am 
italian one is the same thing
original is
partito nazionale fascista shorten in PNF
so dosen't changed anything
SphereWorld  [author] 16 Apr, 2019 @ 1:26pm 
I just updated. This is a big update focused on bringing more consistency into vanilla naming system. I made many parties use abbreviated name and gave many parties with no full name a full name. This abbreviated and full name double system has been discussed in the description of this mod if you are not sure. For now I prefer to follow Vanilla's design logic. If more people like to see full name, I will consider making another version though.
SphereWorld  [author] 16 Apr, 2019 @ 10:32am 
@CSRZ Yes, I will try to give them full names. I have updated the description where you may see my 'ambitious' plan.
CSRZ 16 Apr, 2019 @ 10:25am 
@SphereWorld
some of the parties in vanilla have full names and some don't
SphereWorld  [author] 16 Apr, 2019 @ 9:51am 
@CSRZ

Ah yes, I just noticed PDX seems to have forgotten to add KPD's full name. I will definitely fix this in the next update :)
SphereWorld  [author] 16 Apr, 2019 @ 9:18am 
@CSRZ

In vanilla, you actually have full party names. But if you want to see them, you need to play that country and open the political interface where you have a party name list. Move your cursor to each party name and it will show the full name of each party if it has one. Just like the screenshots. I will not change PDX's design of abbreviation name system. They definitely did it purposely for the reason of simplicity and clean interface. If you have very long party names, the space in political interface will not be enough to contain them. So instead of seeing 'Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands' on that interface, you may see 'Kommunistische Part.....'
CSRZ 16 Apr, 2019 @ 8:10am 
Subscribed.

I actually had an idea for a mod like this, but I wanted to make the names longer and without shortcuts - so for example: Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands instead of just KPD, Bezpartyjny Blok Wspolpracy z Rzadem instead of BBWR and so on.

If you need any help I will gladly help with this project.
SphereWorld  [author] 15 Apr, 2019 @ 10:30pm 
@Wartank55 I don't have such plan, not just because I'm aware there seems to be another mod dedicated to non-aligned parties but also because Paradox has a very vague definition on these non-aligned parties. I would just try to fix names that are inaccurate and immersion-breaking and I definitely would still follow Paradox's naming rules. If Paradox leaves the name of a country's non-aligned party to be just 'Non-Aligned', I very likely wouldn't touch it at all.
Wartank55 15 Apr, 2019 @ 10:02pm 
will this eventually rename all the Non-Aligned Parties as well.