can you do a rework on this? its so op even when theyre getting flanked from all sides, a homoioi phalanx held off against 3 principes units on its own while flanked from all sides

Give them attack order, they only switch to swords when enemy gets too close.

In general, always give phalanx attack orders to make it preform well.

The way phaalnx is coded, IT DOES NOT count as being in melee combat but having collision, so unless units is being told it is in combat, it does not know it needs to keep poking enemies at a distance.

Is there any way to have hoplites use the "Additionally all animations were swapped to only use spears in combat." without this mod? I want them to use spear since they are spear infantry, but they use sword all the time, even when there is 1,5meter gap betwen the 2 clashing units.
Thank you

Hey, I noticed that some of the hoplite units are missing their formation attack ability. I'm not sure if this is intended or not. It seems like some of them are missing attributes such as expert charge defense. I was thinking this could be causing it. The ones I've noticed so far are; carthaginian hoplites, bosporan royal guard, bosporan hoplites, colchian foot guards, colchian hoplites,and persian hoplites.

Correct :) Granted, I still double check after each patch is out one I havent tweaked something but in general nothing that would make it not work as intended.

Good to know, I can stop bugging you. One last thing, does this also hold for your alternative pike mod?

Yes, I made the setup to be always compatible with future patches.

Its me again. This is still working as intended in 1.3.4? cheers and thank you

Thanks Kam!

Yes, should be fine.

Does this continue to work with the latest official DEI version?

Is this the reason the legionaries walk with their shields braced? in my campaigns the legionaries always walk as if their under fire, and it kinda kills the vibe. any way to fix this?

got it

Without since this just turns them into spearmen.

will a frontline of hoplites and pikes perform better with or without your two mods?

scenario is a matched line with no flanking manouvers can be made.

Yes, both can be used together as per description.

Does this work with your other Phalanx mod?

Its not possible with the way it works here as AI would not know how to use it. This is why this is not in the main mod as while it fixes some phalanx related bugs, on its own it also has separate issues.

I understand, maybe is it possible to update the mod and make the phalanx formation switchable (i.e. hoplites out of phalanx can run, while in phalanx they got the passive bonus but cannot run)? As it is now, for example, in all battles (except in siege of course) against Carthage all their hoplite units lacks behind their army and miss the battle and gets easily circled and routed later, in particular if they are reinforcing

Without it you will have them running around while having all phalanx bonuses.

Them not being able to run is intended.

Is it possible to have the hoplites run? By making them walk-only it breaks the balance of enemy AI reinforcing battles, as their armies are always split (with all the hoplites lacking behind far away, they often arrive when the battle has already ended)

Hey Kam, i'm having an issue with barbarian shield walls, the formation attack toggle is missing from the Hud and the unit is acting like a regular spear unit in combat, as in they are spreading out and not staying in formation in combat. as fair as i can tell its only been happening since the update. i don't think i'm running any conflicting mods that mess with formations, any ideas what it could be?

Is it possible to keep the original Hoplite Phalanx/Shieldwall of the DEI and just change the animation to spear only?

I tried to edit the file in Pack File Manager but it did not work.

It works but you must load it before main mod.

Данный мод работает некорректно, юниты вместо использования пик переключается на мечи, что вражеские, что свои.

is this updated for the latest patch? 1.3.1?

save game compatible?

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification

This mod just turns all hoplites into spearmen with passive buffs. They will just fight like any other spearmen on walls.

question: if using this and you attack walls with a phalanx, what's their behavior on walls? Do they use swords? Do they get into a "formation"?

You can't fix it otherwise as making it passive is only way for AI to use it.

I like you fix the invisible wall Phalanx, they are OP, but I don't like they speed is 2..

That is the point, they cant run when you use this.

How to run? They always walk

Hey Kam, i'm having an issue with barbarian shield walls, the formation attack toggle is missing from the Hud and the unit is acting like a regular spear unit in combat. as fair as i can tell its only been happening since the update. i don't think i'm running any conflicting mods that mess with formations, any ideas what it could be?

Its up to you really.

While I made this mod, I am not using it myself as I position units in a way that AI is not likely to glitch.

I don't play Rome all that often, how big is the issue with the hoplitas and pikes? Is it important to have this mod?

great news!

Mod updated for 1.3.

GOOD! THANKS!

Great news Kam!

Not yet but will be this week :)

Hello is this compatible with 1.3 beta or 1.3 full release? Love Dei!

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE!!! 2022!!!

Mauryan Hoplites fights with SWORDS!

update :p

Update please!

OH YES