lol yea but tbh I didn't even think of this whole convo being in the discussions tab. All these years of map making and I still forget stuff exists lol

And yes, I will narrate this discussion if you wish, which now that I think about it... I should've put in the discussion tab.

Yeah. That's why I was wishing for clarification. If you want, I can help with writing an improved version. Maybe voice acting. Hell, maybe I help you, you teach/help me scenario. Given how I make my videos, your level of expertise on map design and sound design is amazing. Meanwhile I can barely comprehend how to get Hammer editor on my PC, my extractor tools won't work, and I watch all the Blender Tutorials I can, yet that teaser was correct in my desperation. As for the map. Once I got the true ending though, I did realize the true nature. The Red of Wrath and no Green of Greed.

wow I really wish I knew about this person when making the map lol her story could have really helped with the map's plot.

Yes. I enjoyed it. It put more clarity to the subject matter. Which is why I said what I said. There are times where even the dead have no regrets. The biggest confusion that I had was if it was Wrath or Greed at play. Greed is something that results in scenarios like Mary Knight, who I highly recommend you look up. Here is an interview https://youtu.be/PHvBO4Rq_Jg

Did you replay the map to get the good ending?

Yeah. I'll do a bit of review points in the video as well. I like the message, but know that it won't hit everyone the same way. Not everyone can, and not everyone should be forgiven. That's all I'll say.

lol its alright lots of us Indians have forgotten the language/culture so you're not alone. Do you think you will upload the video?

Wow. I really hope I didn't butcher the pronunciation then. lol.

Well the name comes from my native language, to my knowledge it translates to "one with demonic powers" or something related to that. In fact in our culture when someone dies they spend the next 4 days visiting loved ones before moving on hence why the description says "The past four days our mother has been visiting us in our dreams."

Okay. I literally was having a bad day too when recording, so I kinda stopped (because it was late as hell and I kinda had to). But I will play through for the good ending. I'm just glad that the intent is now more clear. So, the monster baits you into thinking you'll be more independent if you never forgive anyone. I've researched the demon name and you were the only result, so the fact you made an entity that can shatter through time and space to be the embodiment of ones own victim blaming impulses just impresses me.

Haha well it sounds like you got the bad ending. The monster being a "victim blamer" is exactly what it is and getting the bad ending means the character's fell for its trap. Did you get the good ending? In my eyes that is the "true" ending of this map.

It takes as much time for grief to take hold as forgiveness would. I'm not mad. Just confused, and scared, because I may end up disappointed. The dread building up in this scared me enough. This ending seemed like the intent wasn't in the right frame of mind. It's like this "evil spirit" is a victim blamer. That's all I can wrap my head around but I don't wish for it to be true. With being this confused, it leaves me with the question, "How can you forgive something or someone you can never trust?"

Alright, but just know that I got your quote, unquote "jumpscare" ending and I have a lot to say. This is only half of it. Everything was so tremendously detailed except the character you're playing as. You never know enough of the full story to determine the black or white outcome. The ending made me sob in confusion because these main characters you're playing as have been through near death experiences at the hands of that person, and lacking forgiveness so early on when finding out about the moms passing is "weak minded"?

Well I mean I would love to see a video of the map being played through. So please upload lol

Update. Played it. Not sure if you want me uploading the video though. This got into REAL heavy subject matter and I've never had an existential crisis on camera like that before.

It had to be filmed half and half, as due to budgetary purposes, I can't leave my home state to do anything. So think of some of it like how people like Spectre animate their videos. Greenscreen is always on standby for me.

You focus more on real life short films rather than gameplay correct?

getting to it. Just needed to release the trailer because disk space is already in the red, and I still gotta uninstall a lot of other things first.

That was pretty cool lol oh btw did you ever play the map?

Also, Typhus, here's the trailer, that will lead to my channel, if you need it. https://youtu.be/CGM3dKlvuIE

I do. The channel name is Kyra Universal.

well I hope it comes out great! Do you have a youtube channel?

My short films are mostly IRL, though while realizing a lot of it requires a big budget, I've been learning more on 3d things like blender to try and add to the project in ways too expensive to do in reality. My short films tend to be inspired by other things, for example, my latest (that I'm still working on) is a concept about If the 80s version of Knight Rider didn't end up in the crappy reboot and Knight Rider 2000 movie like most thought? It actually takes place in 2006.

Ok well tell me what you think of the map when you get around to it!
What kind of short films do you make?

Nah, that's why option 4 was stated. Just downloaded it, as it peaked my interest. Also, if you ever need an extra voice actor, I do independent short films myself, so I have a little bit of experience.

haha I like the assumptions! Have you played the map yet?

So what I'm getting at, just by these images. Either 1. Your aunt was your real mom, and the other lady gave birth to a demon. 2. Your mom thought you were a demon which is why she hated you, and went crazy from post partum. 3. You are a demon and don't know it. Or 4. I'm pulling too much from this and should just play the thing.

home entertainment was 2020/2021.

I think the map was finished before gemini home entertainment came out

aw no gemini home entertainment :(

Thanks!

THE BTST MAP

Yes, yes. And this is got easily than i think

hmm that is interesting. At least you can listen to the music outside of the game now right?

Yes. But it works not in all addons. Some unrepacked addons have only image materials

you have the music now?

Hi. Typhus. I got it how unrepack addon. Just place the addon file on gmad.exe who have in first directory on game

haha thanks! That piano song I actually made the day before the map was finished since I wanted to it be on the workshop on October 1st. I just went "yeah that sounds good enough" then included it in the good ending so what you're hearing was the first and only recording of it.

This map is really good, both map atmosphere and story is great and i like the look of the demon, it really scare me out the first time i met it. And this map has a well optimized, even my potato laptop could run in above 50+ fps at all time(the only time it get below 50 is the house area). I could't find anything about downside of this map (atleast of me), oh and btw the puzzle in the last area is very impressive that is require some brain to get a good ending and i personal really REALLY love the piano in the good ending it was a peacefully to listened to :DD.

Yes. I've been thinking about that too

hmm maybe you can record it while playing the game.

I really wanna listen it out of game

Typhus, maybe you can give me it in personal correspondence

Thanks! You can't get it anywhere its all just saved on my pc since I didnt feel like uploading it anywhere.

Great map. Where I can find ost from this map?

Thanks!! Glad you liked it!

Another epic map! Thanks!

What about the horror map?

cool