Is it possible for empire titles to keep the title history of their primary kingdom under that empire (e.g. French monarch forming Francia keeps the name Louis VII instead of Louis I for the new title) Nice mod, and sorry if it's nitpicky.

@Jesus
I heavily disagree. If this had been the case during the medieval period, than why didn't the Visigoth proclaim themselves as Emperor of Hispania?
If the Visigoths & Ostrogoths had untied into a single Empire, which I believe from a video I've seen was an idea, then their claim to being Emperor would've been recognised & then maybe we would've had a Gothic Empire claiming to be the legit Roman Imperator.
A realistic addition to the mod where through dynastic marriage one can claim to be Imperator if they're married into the Imperial Family if the HRE or ERE.
It'd have to grant a whole new trait to characters that is somewhere inbetween the Augustus trait & the Sayyid trait which can be degraded to claimant status, once the dynasty & the people married into it no longer owns a Roman Empire.

Well, as far as I understand it, the Spanish imperial title wasn't used for very long and was also not really recognized outside Spain. I would recommend disabling the mod for Hispania runs if you want to see a Hispanian empire for the time being. I will think about making an additional version of the mod which would leave Hispania as an empire, but no promise.

Love the idea of the mod, but I agree with the person below me — if you could return the Empire of Hispania I'd be grateful!

Many thanks!

"Emperor of Hispania" was an actual title used by real rulers, and definitely in the collective political imagination of iberian christians. Should remain an empire imo

based and historical authenticity pilled

@florenciacosimo English and German

What languages is this mod compatible with ????

nice mod, it would be cool if u could make a mod for landless adventurers from the norse culture title into "Warlord" cause it makes more sense in my opinion

Honestly, I'd argue that Francia and Italia should also be Empires, as an Empire forged from one of those titles would have a high likelihood of being rival claimants to the HRE.

Lots of info thanks, will do!

@Commodus
The Great Kingdom title is just a name for an empire tier title, unless there is a different name with higher priority for what is usually a cultural condition of the holder. The High Kingdoms and Great Kingdoms are called that way no matter the culture of the holder and the "High King" / "Great King" has to take priority over "Emperor", otherwise it would not work. Once you hold two empires the one with the special name takes precedence, no matter what your primary title is... as far as I understand it at least.
I would recommend either disabling the mod for specific playthroughs where this collides, not actually forming further empires from the changed list or as a possible workaround get the mod Title manager, find an empty empire tier title (not part of this mod) and consolidate it with the problematic title, create the new title and rename it via title customization.

Probably easier to just ignore creating new titles or disabling the mod for that playthrough though.

Yes, so after destroying west slavia and carpathia, im back to emperor

But I hold fracia and im still emp

I would have thought it would just work on your primary title?

Otherwise I can never create those two empire titles if I want to be called emperor of the roman empire? dsont seem right:P

Yes it happened when I invaded the Carpathian empire.

Right ill try that thanks<3

@Commodus Hmm, did you perhaps hold both the Roman Empire and one of the titles changed in the mod (Hispania, Francia, Carpathia, West Slavia) ? Because the in order to work the "Great King" title has a higher priority than "Emperor." If that is the case, destroying the "Great Kingdom" title should do the trick.

This mod changed my title from Roman Emperor to Great King:/

Dosnt seem right

imagine getting the option to pick between different styles of adress like High King, Emperor, Mighty King, ect

@modmodmod
Hmmm, I may look into it later, thank you for your advice.

@Danir(CZ)

There is no need to write all the code inside 'culture_titles' unless the file name is 'culture_titles_l_english.yml'.

I am actually using your mod, changing the file name to 'GKHK_culture_titles_l_korean.yml' and translating only the necessary parts.

I'm not sure if this would have been explained since I'm a non-English speaker. If you don't understand well,
See 'mgk_flavorization_l_english.yml' in the 'More German Kingdoms' mod. https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2777214684

@modmodmod

Well I do think I have to actually. Because "Great Kings" aren't defined in the culture_titles_I_english file, so just using it in the flavorization file would do nothing as far as I can tell.

You do not need to include the entire 'culture_titles_l_english.yml' file.
Better compatibility can be achieved by simply modifying the 'flavorization' that only this mod uses.
Thanks for the update

this is really cool and immersive, it just makes sense for the ruler of brittania, especially if he's celtic, to be called high king

@rayancoelho I already did that yesterday

Could you please update the mod to the new patch, 1.12.1? Many thanks in advance!

@IriKy Thank you very much for your feedback. I don't intent to add decisions in order to keep the mod lightweight (and also due to a lack of skill on my part)... However, how would High King, High Queen, High Kingdom (and the great versions) translate to in French ? I already added German localization, I might as well add French too if you could translate it please.

Finally a mod that presents the true definition of the Empire in the Middle Ages (the fact that it is unique)!

And for a simple French translation, you can put "Haut Roi" or "Grand Roi".

It could be interesting to go so far as to suppress all the empires of Christianity except those of the Roman Empire (which will only become Holy and Germanic at the end of the Middle Ages) and that of Basileía Rhômaíôn.

And so, if it is possible, to have decisions (for example for the Scandinavians) which would merge kingdoms into one.
I advise to see the mod (French) "REX IN REGNO SUO EST IMPERATOR" for CK2.

@our.m4dn3ss Sorry, not sure how one would go about and do that.

So, in case I create an empire, could title history be copied to my empire title? That way I wouldn't lose my kings counting, and my french King Louis VII doesn't become Louis I.

Has anyone else run into a problem where the Pope's title is King instead of Pope?

@Renown Would a Norse pagan really have any idea why they would want to crown themselves emperor ? Because that is a title which would come from a different cultural area.

But sure having a nice compex system, where one would transition from High King to Emperor after challenging the current Emperor(s) claim would be a cool thing... but it would be a huge departure from this lightweight mod, and I imagine it would also be quite hard to make (from the perspective of my low level of modding competence) so I am afraid you won't find that here.

I.e. I could see norse christians not using emperor, but I could see pagan norse using emperor (because why not?). It was used prior to the christians by factions, and it's use by others in the east could definitely influence.

For example, the default for these positions could indeed be High/Great Kings etc... but if christian you can seek approval from Pope for the title Emperor. (It's what happened anyhow in some cases).

AI non christians could seek to change their titles depending on their government type, authority, etc.

I like this for some things... but realistically a more prevalent crowning system would make sense.

@WRECKLESSREVOLT
As far as I understand, multiple kings used the title of emperor, but only one had himself actually crowned one is what I meant.

then at other times it was used by other kings in iberia refering to the main monarch like with Ramiro I of Aragon in the charter of 1036. He lists the monarchs of spain " Emperor Bermudo in Leon, Count Ferdinand in Castile, King Garcia in Pamplona and Ramiro in Aragon, and King Gonzalo in Ribagorza". Its my personal opinion that the Practice of using "in" signifies that these realms fluctuated as did the titles. Spain was really weird about having random "Kingdoms and such" For instance i bet you didnt know that Mallorca was an independant kingdom in the 1200s. It played a prominent role in the Cathar movement because of the rulers independence and Kingly title that put them on a status bar with the French king

Well actually it was multiple Kings, Ferdinand I, Alfonso the VI etc. If you want to read more on it look up "Imperator totius Hspaniae". The thing was it was an interchangable title that would didnt usually get passed on and wasn't really recognised by outsiders and often by insiders of the kingdoms. Sometimes it was given to them after the ruler had already died.
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@WRECKLESSREVOLT
That is very interesting, thank you for sharing this information. From what I can tell from briefly looking at it, it seems that the usage of the imperial title wasn't very regular though and it seems that only one king actually had himself crowned emperor. Anyway I will keep the title of Hispania as a Great Kingdom in this mod.

I'd like to point out that The Spanish actually did use the title Emperor. They were one of the only groups to use it apart from the HRE or ERE in the time period.

@Diph Happy to hear that, have fun :)

@danir no sounds good, I really like it. I've had to use a mod to manually do stuff like this for awhile, glad finally made a mod to do it by default. Great king/High king love it

@TaterTot Well it is quite arbitrary, to be honest. The title of High King existed in Ireland, so Britain is clear in that regard. However calling Hispania/Francia/Carpathia as High Kingdoms sounded weird to me while I liked how it sounded in regards to Scandinavia.

Why the distinction between Great Kings and High Kings?

@WRECKLESSREVOLT
It might be a little hardcore to people who don't know that much about medieval history so I personally can't see that happening in vanilla. However one can always roleplay all of that.

Personally I think when Making empires in the game it should have a series of events tied to it. Maybe making your Empire a Co Empire of Sorts if your Catholic. if you founded a new church make a Rival Empire. If youre orthodox make it in the same vain, but similar to How Trebizond was.

If the Pope rejects your Empire you have a series of events that can Either lead to war with Pope and HRE, or simply ignore him altogether and found a "New" Imperium in the same vain as the Gallic Empire.

cool, Danke!

@Abaschubi Alright, added German localization, Viel Spaß.

oh, mega! it would be super! thx

@Abashubi Well I do speak German, so it is theoretically possible I guess, I will do it sometime in the near future probably

is it possible to make an german version?

@Warcraft12311111
Well, I am afraid I don't really know how I would do that I am really an amateur modder. So I am afraid I won't make that kind of patch, sorry.