Hey, this is a nice mod and I'm stillusing it in my Snikch Vortex Campaign =)

I have 2 issues/questions tho:

1. Any chance you could do an SFO Compatability Mod for the Upgraded Eshin Triads?
2. At some point CA changed it so that Friendly-Fire doesn't include negative On-Hit Effects anymore (so you arent poisoning your own units) - this soemhow doesnt seem t owork with the "Toxic!" imbued attacks from the Clan Pest Bonus, making it a double edged sword and something to avoid

the poisoned blades bonus doesn't apply to shadow vermin and also the upgraded eshin triads don't shoot for me for some reason

can i use the unit pack (not this) as clan moulder?

I messed about and found a solution. Your fts_triad.frg is missing 'FIRE_LEVEL' and 'RELOAD01_LEVEL' slots. Coping them over from the halberd_and_doomrocket.frg works like a charm.

This mod is absolutely epic! Fantastic job mate!

Hey, loving the mod series it really rescues the eshin camp experience. 1 Bug report thou: the upgraded triads don't fire their ranged weapons. Probably an update messed up their animations.

Love the mod. Is it possible for you to make the Stormvermin menace below a separate mod for all skaven faction

This is a known bug and I've already put a warning in the description...

This mod totally breaks thrott's lab for me (yes even if its the only mod used).

No this mod doesn't touch any units or the recruitment cost reductions

and getting the contracts done to get the reduction takes a long ass time too.

hey buddy, was wondering did you by any chance change the recruitment costs of ap infantry for eshin in this mod? like 2.5k for some stormvermin is just a bit annoying

yeah +/-10% hp to all units is crazy. I meant it to be more like Moulder's faction trait

and the replenishment rate can be supplemented by putting assassins in your armies

sorry that wasn't clear

oh yeah I meant the hp for characters

OK I'll take another pass at them

Some stuff seems overtuned now. Especially Moulder's HP bonuses/penalties (+15% HP/-10%HP on max levels is crazy, I don't think that there is anything in-game that gives this sort of buff/debuff) and Pestilens' debuffs (-10% replenishment and -2 food per army on max level is just brutal).

I made a version and it works pretty well, though I don't know how to add the stormvermin menace below or the moulder augments.

Mors:
PO: -4/-2/+0/+1/+2/+4
Leadership: -8/-4/+0/+2/+4/+8
Armour for Stormvermin/Clanrats/Slaves: -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15
Max level adds Stormvermin Menace below, 15% weapon strength for characters

Moulder:
Build cost: +10/+5/+0/-5/-10/-15
HP: -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15
Armour for Moulder units: -20/-10/+0/+10/+20/+30
Max level adds Augments for Moulder units/skavenslaves, 10% physical resist for characters

Skryre:
Research rate: -20/-10/+0/+10/+20/+30
WOM Power Reserve: -20/-10/+0/+10/+20/+30
Ammunition: -50%/-25%/+0%/+25%/+50%/+100%
Max level adds Concealment bombs for Weapons Teams, 20 armour for characters

Pestilence:
Growth: -30/-10/+0/+10/+30/+50
Food from armies: -2/-1/+0/+0/+1/+1
Replenishment rate: -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15
Max level adds Poison Attacks for all infantry, 5 melee defense for characters

Another thing, I am playing a campaign rn and I am on turn 223 and for awhile now every council meeting has only given me 1 new contract. I have maxed Mors, Skryre, and Pestilence and am level 2 with Moulder. Is this your mod or the game?

I think replenishment rate is a good idea especially since Skaven Lords don't have a blue-line skill that increases it like almost every other faction. I have had to run Assassins in every one of my armies to keep them topped off.

Skryre goes WOM Start: -8/-3/+3/+5/+10/+13, CD for Lore of Stealth: +10/+0/+0/+0/-8/-13, Research Rate: -12/-6/+0/+3/+6/+10. I think it should be WOM Reserve: -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15, CD for All Spells of All (Skaven) Lores: +10/+5/+0/-2/-6/-10, Research Rate: -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15. I don't see the point of the upgraded triads to be honest. Otherwise looks good.

Pestilence is Growth: -30/-20/+10/+20/+30/+50, the weird plagueclaw catapult buff (I think it should be scrapped completely), and Food from Armies: -2/-1/+0/+0/+1/+1. I think it should be Growth: -20/-10/+0/+10/+30/+50, Food from Armies: -2/-1/+0/+0/+1/+1, and Replenishment Rate: -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15. I also think the Plague Immunity should start at max level not 3rd. To be honest the Plague Immunity might be completely useless because the Eshin don't have access to the Pestilent Scheme. The melee defense is kind of meh too, I think regen for lords/heroes would be really cool.

Moulder goes Build Cost +15/+7/+0/-2/-4/-15, Armour -10/-4/+2/+4/+6/+8, Weapon Strength -5/+0/+0/+0/+3/+5. It also has a consistent 5 traits and then goes to 7 at max level, which I think is a good number. I love the augments on Moulder units but again it shouldn't affect skavenslaves. I think the build cost needs a flatter curve like +10/+5/+0/-5/-10/-15. I personally think the armor is more Clan Mors and Skryre's thing so it should be HP: -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15 for Moulder units and Missile Resist: -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15. (the negative ones would have to be missile weakness because not all Moulder units have innate missile resist).

Meh, it doesn't really fit IMO.

Here are my suggestions for all 4 clans. Take what you want no pressure.
Mors goes Leadership -8/+0/+0/+0/+3/+5, PO -6/-3/+1/+2/+2/+4, Armour for -8/-2/+0/+2/+4/+6 and has a pretty consistent 5 traits and then at max level it jumps up to 9 traits. I think you might want to make the Armour just for clanrats and stormvermin and make it go -10/-5/+0/+5/+10/+15. The Leadership should have a better curve at something like -8/-4/+0/+2/+4/+6. The PO as well should be more like -4/-2/+0/+1/+2/+4. (-6 is crippling on harder difficulties, forcing you to go Mors). The Infantry weapon strength kind of bugs me. I love the Menace Below being Stormvermin though definitely keep that, its perfect.

Added bonuses for plagueclaw catapults let me know what you think.

I like the poison attacks for stuff, maybe you could add bonuses for plague monks to make them viable or plagueclaw catapults?

Yeah im open to changes for pestilens, I'm still not 100% satisfied with their rewards at the moment

Skaven don't really trade

Instead of trade income for Pestilence could you make it reduced cooldown for spells of plague?

Must be something to do with the way I scripted the mutations to work. Hadn't tried playing another campaign with the mod installed but if I get time I'll look into it

Hey, found a problem. Don't know if it's just me but this mod breaks Throt's Cum Dungeon. When I try and use it it tells me that I, Clan Moulder, cannot use Clan Moulder's Flesh Laboratory because Clan Moulder did not give me, Clan Moulder, permission. None of the units can be selected in either the infantry or monster windows, most of the augments are already unlocked, and even if I could upgrade units the system claims to use gold instead. All in all it completely breaks Throt's Cum Dungeon, 10/10 would ruin my campaign again.

ty :)

Thanks for the reports, must have messed something up. I will look into them ASAP.

Bug Report: The Poisoned Blades from the maxed Clan Pestilence relations is actually putting poison on the Stormvermin, not the people they attack. You should add an ability that imbues poison attacks rather than just putting poison on them.

Bug Report: Clan Pestilence at -10 to -1 has -20 growth for all armies rather than all provinces

with 180+ mods, so your mod seems pretty compatible

been playing with it today

it does

I haven't tested it but I highly doubt it works with sfo

I don't know, cybvep, I feel like Sniktch's campaign is the most boring of the 4 good Skaven lords(so better than Tretch and Queek)

Does this work with SFO?

IMO Snikch gets enough buffs as it is :).

Ok sorry i didnt see the negation of plague attrition

Well to spice it a little bit more i'd add some abilities for armies or snikch. Skryre could give him some sort of doom grenade to throw. Clan pestilence could negate attrition from plague, while moulder would give regeneration for snikch

Thanks for the feedback, I'll look into making some changes tomorrow

5. Lower Pestilens' food penalty on "Hostile" to -1 remove it from "Unfriendly". Increase the growth penalties to -25/-40 instead. Food is a very important resource and -3 for all armies on the max level is really harsh.

Excellent idea. Looking at the pictures, I have small suggestions:

1. Increase Moulder's construction penalty to +15% on "Hostile" and +7% on "Unfriendly". In Vanilla Moulder's penalties are easily the most lenient and even in this mod it seems that is still true, making Moulder the "dump" clan.
2. Change Moulder's Armor bonus/penalties to +10/+6/+4/+2/-4/-10 to make them more noticeable.
3. Remove Skryre's ammo penalty or replace it with -5/-10 to WoM reserve. Ammo is important for Skaven (including Eshin with their AP Night and Gutter Runners), Skryre's units are super good and Skryre's buffs are great as well. No need to make the choice even less of a no brainer.
4. Change Mors' Armor bonus to +10/+8/+5/+3 to make it more noticeable and add Stormvermin to the unit list (Mors are famous for their Stormvermin, so this fits them well).