Hey, just to say, you can't have a civil war as Etruria it seems.

Speaking of AI, have you considered using AI to expand and rewrite the Etruscan General's pre-battle speeches? If you do accept this proposition, I already have ideas for speeches that I will send to you on Discord. First on the list: The Etruscan General's & Admiral's speeches when confronting the Romans.

I love this faction and im really enjoying this campaign! As they are traders they would borrow good ideas from neighbouring factions. So please add infantry units from the macadonians (pike), Spartans (hoplites) and iberians (falcata swords) in a second military reform. Perhaps british chariots should be used as a basis for a unit at the beginning of the campaign as they are a bronze age people and perhaps none indo European like the basque. Could you add brothels in cities to increase the Etruscan population of lower class citizens (expanded from playing field building or immigrants)? I'd imagine A.I can help with coding. Many thanks for all your hard work.

Tinia – Chief sky god, equivalent to Zeus/Jupiter

Uni – Goddess of marriage and fertility, wife of Tinia; equivalent to Hera/Juno

Menrva – Goddess of wisdom, war, and art; equivalent to Athena/Minerva

Turan – Goddess of love and beauty; equivalent to Aphrodite/Venus

Laran – God of war; equivalent to Ares/Mars

Velchans – God of fire and the forge; associated with Hephaestus/Vulcan

Fufluns – God of wine, health, and vegetation; equivalent to Dionysus/Bacchus

Aita – God of the underworld; equivalent to Hades/Pluto

Vanth – Winged spirit of death, often seen guiding souls to the underworld

Charun – Demon of death, often depicted with a hammer; guardian of the underworld

Nortia – Goddess of fate and destiny, associated with time and prophecy

Letham – Goddess of the dead or death itself

Selvans – God of forests and boundaries, similar to Roman Silvanus

Usil – Sun god; equivalent to Sol

Thesan – Goddess of the dawn and childbirth

Catha – Mysterious solar or lunar goddess, sometimes conflated with Thesan

Artume (Aritimi) – Goddess of the hunt and nature; equivalent to Artemis/Diana

Please create a cultural affiliation between Rhaetians and Etruscans and Germanic peoples because some scholars argue that early Germanic runes (Elder Futhark) may have been influenced by Etruscan and Rhaetian alphabets, not invented independently. Here's the brief logic:

Etruscans colonised northern Italy and the Alps before 500 BC, spreading their alphabet—derived from Greek.

Rhaetians, culturally linked to the Etruscans, used similar scripts in what is now Austria and Switzerland.

Germanic tribes near the Alps (e.g. Noricum, South Germany) likely had contact with these scripts via trade or migration.

Several rune shapes (like ᚠ, ᚱ, ᚹ) resemble letters in Etruscan and Rhaetian scripts.

The timing fits: Elder Futhark appears c. 2nd century AD, long after Etruscan script but near former Etruscan-Rhaetian zones.

Germanic runes were likely a modified adaptation of older Alpine-Italic scripts, filtered through contact zones rather than pure invention.

thank you for this great release!. Are you planning to add more factions overhaul?.

@Tun4Flake5
I accidentally uploaded a testing version with the last update that disables the reform requirements.
It's fixed now, but you'll have to start a new game / load a save from before turn 5 to have the reforms work correctly

nope it was turn 5 and i already had the reforms instantly

@Tun4Flake5
Did you maybe hit the alternative requirements? They're imperium level 3 and turn 120 iirc

is it just me or does the reform requirement just not work (i managed to get the reform without completing the obj)

Hey man, absolutely LOVING those renames for the Etruscan Cavalry + Hoplite Guard. It is just so fitting! However, I have noticed two issues of organization, they are minor but rather annoying.

Firstly: For whatever reason, the Etrucan Marine Archers and the Etruscan Light Marines get mixed up whenever they're both in Etruscan fleets. The organization is totally scrambled, with archers and javelinmen not sticking to their own and mixing, causing a confusing and frustrating time every time you click a fleet and see its composition. I think the problem may have something to do with them sharing some sort of category that chooses where unit cards wind up?

Second is solely for multiplayer/custom battle, the two Etruscan Swordsmen are in between the Axemen, which is rather inconvenient, and the Etruscan Levy Spear's reform unit is right smack dab in between the light spear maniple unit cards. And lastly, I think the position of the Etruscan Slingers and Javelinmen should be switched.

Hello, I love this mod and I'm thankful for the great work you've put into it!
The only issue I have is the mismatched shields on many units (Hoplon, Scutum, Thureos in the same formation), is there a way to make some units more uniform, maybe only after reforms as they become more professional?

Greetings, I have been enjoying a campaign as Etruria, been loving the experience so far. However, I think some units should be renamed. For starters, the Noble Hoplite, this unit is already an amazing one, as the sole phalanx option for the Etruscans post reforms, they serve their function very well, however, their name is redundant, as only Etruscan nobility were hoplites. I think a better name for them would be "Etruscan Elite Hoplites," the same logic goes for the "Etruscan Noble Cavalry," just "Etruscan Cavalry" would do.

@Knightmare
do you have this mod on top of your load order? That usually happens because another mod is overwriting this one.

not sure if its outdated or just me but the faction doesnt show up for me on the selection screen

@The Grimwar
I did some streamlining of the reform system and broke the upgrade technology in the progress, thanks for pointing that out to me. Should be fixed now!

Just got your latest update, and I LOVE the fact that you gave the Etruscan levy units their own reform versions, it really brings them up to snuff with the rest of the roster, the levy swords in particular were an extremely effective screen for my hoplite phalanx even before the reforms. I just have two problems to report:

Firstly, when the reforms are activated, the Italic Aristocratic Cavalry is listed as a general's bodyguard unit.

And secondly, aside from the levies, the rest of the roster is unable to upgrade to their reform units.

Something I'd also like to suggest once you fix that is revamped unit descriptions, but I've come here to say again that this mod is AWESOME, and what makes it all the better is that you haven't abandoned it. Thanks for your work.

Hello, I recently subscribed to this mod because it is an intriguing concept that can bring an alternative gameplay to life and while I like the units, I was wondering if the Etruscans can borrow some of the culture, technology, and units from Rome if they capture and assimilate them. Something equivalent to Roman legions would be fun to see.

Thank you for the mod.

Greetings. Knowing about the content that the official DEI Team is working on for the Rise of the Republic DLC, might I suggest porting over some of the units they suggest over to your mod? Like the Etruscan Warriors?

@Servasius
I think already in base Divide et Impera legendary gives the AI a lot of bonuses like upkeep reduction, more income, higher public order and lower banditry.

@gesuntight may be because another mod, better ai recruitment, but something boder me, looks like AI never run out gold

@Servasius
not sure what you're talking about. This mod doesn't change difficulty/AI-bonuses

try playing spartan at legendary level, not balance at all,
AI have unlimited gold, and we cant even destroy one village

@DannyMeister177
you likely have a mod conflict:
Either you don't have this mod higher than the DeI-parts in your load order
OR you have another mod active that changes the startpos.

Also, minor thing, but when I hover over the unit cards, it says it can't find unit settings or exception or something like that.

Hi, it appears that I am considered to be Italic culture in the game and this causes population growth and other issues when I use the temples to get Etruscan culture. Can this be fixed or am I doing something wrong?

Hey, Gesuntight, I asked lequential about it, and he says he's not going to change the "Cultural Tension" part of his "Profundis" mod to include your Etruscan Culture into it. So you wouldn't mind making it compatible, would you? I have a campaign, and because of the building's culture not taking into account the Etruscan Culture, Latium is 18% Etruscan.

And on top of this, the final tiers of the temples do not provide cultural conversion values that scale with Cultural Tension in the mod.

I think he's using the "Alternative Economy" version of the mod, I remember making the same mistake.

@Zombolic
still not sure what the problem is haha
The units in this mod cost around the same as all other DeI units, like I said I'm using the DeI cost formula to balance it.

@Gewis
yes

on custom battles atleast, the cost for each unit is 10x that of other factions units, i dont even have this mod installed, so i think it could be an original DEI issue, but yeh... i bet thats the problem. So its probably not this submods fault :)

Does this work with Rise of the Republic?

@Willem
what exactly do you mean?
Recruitment and upkeep costs use the standard DeI formula

Why are the recruitment cost so exceptionally high ?

what about an plausible imperial Reform units?

now that's not insurance for a co-op campaign hahahaha

@[TPPL] King Leonidas
I'm not aware of any issues.
If you find anything that's not working, let me know!

does this work still?

@vmena_2976
They just weren't used in the DeI timeframe anymore. They're really unique but I didn't want to drift too far from reality.
@Immortalhallur
to add them as an unplayable faction isn't too complicated, but adding a playable faction is a huge amount of work. At least there's DeI for RotR now :)

thought of adding the samnites as well to make it a bit more spicy in italy?

why did you remove the etruscan assault infantry¿? i love their axes

@gesuntight I was using the stock PFM and CA Assembly Kit which can't access the unit table and a few other tables but yeah, RPFM works perfectly. Thanks

@anh2000
what exactly isn't working? I use RPFM for most things, but I can open the packfile and edit the tables with PFM too, just tried it out. I haven't updated PFM in a long while though so I'm on an older version I assume.

Are you using the CA Assembly Kit for modding or the Community Pack File Manager? Trying to make local changes using this mod but the unit and faction tables are unable to be accessed in PFM. Any advice on how I could just tweak some unit stats/colors for Etruria? Or how I could access the unit and faction tables? Not gonna steal your mod just trying to change a few things for my own gameplay. Thanks

@Secularis
I think 1.3.3 included some quite extensive startpos changes and if I'm not wrong some changes to buildings are causing that issue. I'll have to see if the Devs release the startpos kit files again so I can rebuild my startpos and get that fixed.

Not sure if you're aware: I noticed that if playing Rome while this mod is activated, your garrisons are diminished for some reason and Epirus can rush you on turn 1. Silly to play as another faction in this mod but just wanted to make you aware if you weren't already. Great work btw.

@papayabeast
italic culture will always appear in italy due to the regions having some italic influence as local traditions. You should see it as that in the cultural influence breakdown.

Odd, that never happened with me, is your load order correct?

I dont use CT, but i think culture might still be bugged slightly. I recruited a dignitary in the grand campaign and italic culture started shooting up