anyone know if this work for 6.2?

Excellent!

It is indeed working again. Thank you!

@Ordavion
Please let me know if it's working for you now or still causing a CTD on campaign load when you find out.

@Not_My_Spiderman
It will work with any that don't affect confederation/vassalization/client state likelihood of acceptance. If you are running it with something like Fudging Vassals, load my mod higher in your load order so it overwrites any relevant tables in Fudging Vassals (which would only be a few tables, so you get 100% of my mod and 99% of FV. If you run FV above my mod you may get 100% of FV and 0% of my mod).

Thank you. I'll try re-subbing. I do like the change. It improves the gameplay greatly!

@GOW LIKE A BOSS

Forgive my ignorance oh powerful MOD LORD ... but does this work with other AI mods?

@Yoichi & @Ordavion
Please try unsubscribing and resubscribing. I had only changed one value, and it wouldn't cause the crashing. My best guess is that since this mod was so old and I never needed to update the tables for new faction adds or other changes, it wasn't stable and changing it in any way broke something. I've rebuilt the mod with fresh tables from the most recent CA database and added the values back manually. It should work as normal now. Please let me know if it doesn't.

This mod is now crashing my game as well. I disabled it and everything is working fine.

SFO on 5.3.1

ok thanks, good to know.

@Yoichi
If you can't load in with or without the mod then your issue is almost certainly not caused by my mod. It can safely be removed mid game (as it just changes some numbers). Even when it was causing a CTD for me after the change turning it off solved the problem.

yes i tried that many times with no success and i can't load in with or withour the mod

Have you tried unsubscribing and resubscribing to the mod?

@Yoichi
It should be fixed to load into a current campaign. Are you able to load into your campaign with this mod off and when you turn it on you get the CTD?

"It's fixed now" so can load into your campaign or do you mean it won't happen again when you start a new campaing? Cause i can't seem to load into my campaign, getting CTD

Somehow my small update caused a CTD when loading a campaign. It's fixed now with the new value added as well.

Confederation value tweaked as it was allowing confederations to happen when they should not.

@Suppenkoch
It doesn't change who you can vassalize, only the point at which you can vassalize.

Does the mod make it possible to vassalize hordes or rogue armies?

@LOCK-OUT

No, it does not force the AI to do anything. It only changes the likelihood that the AI will do something.

@GOW LIKE A BOSS

This doesn't necessarily force the AI to make peace correct? Thank you for clarification :)

Note as of 4.0: I am not currently playing TWW3 as of Update 4.0. I briefly looked over the new files and don't see that any of my mods have new conflicts that would need fixed. If you are using my mod, and something is broken or incomplete (that was working or complete before 4.0) please post your issue and I will do a more targeted troubleshooting to identify any issues and fix them. Thank you.

Update 8/1/23: Impact to Last Stand modifier for Vassalization slightly decreased. You could vassalize perfectly functional factions (6+ settlements) right after they lost an army or two, which was not the intention. Also, increased the chance of vassals who hate you rebelling from you. Any vassals at +0 affection or better are unchanged, but the more your vassal hates you, the higher their chance of deserting you when war is declared on you - or outright rebelling.

Question to anyone/everyone using the mod: Once you've vassalized a nation, have you ever had them rebel? Either by declaring war on you or by refusing to join a war you started or had declared on you?

@Gow
Thanks that makes sense, I was negotiating with a different race so that's likely the issue. Thanks!

@Lucas6
This mod doesn't change what factions are able to vassalize, it just changes the likelihood of success. It's possible that you are playing as a faction that can't do that. If you are playing as a faction that can normally vassalize (and if you are also unable to offer military/defensive alliances) that issue would have to be caused by another mod as this one wouldn't affect that.

Hi. Love the idea behind the mod. I'm not seeing the options to offer to vassalize/alliance and stuff when I try to negotiate peace with factions, any idea why? Thank you!

@Woolsei
Unless they've dropped Update 3.0 it will still work (I haven't checked their update/patch status lately)

Does this mod still works ?

Thanks for the info!

The mod can be safely added or removed at will during a campaign. If you feel it is too strong in the early game, you may prefer disabling it until a later turn and reactivating it then.

@Lycia Pintella
Likely. The way the mod works is that it reads the "how close to death" value the faction considers itself, and affects confederation/vassalization values based on that determination. A faction with only one or two provinces that loses its only army will be "closer to death" than a later game faction with 10 provinces that loses several armies.

I'm getting some probably too-easy results for confederation and vassalization at least in the early game and I am wondering if this mod might be doing it. Would the mods values make confed/vassalization easier early in the campaign before a faction has had time to grow much?

I actually think this has been going on the whole time, which would explain the sometimes mixed results that were reported. I apologize for the error.

@All
Mod has received a critical update. Not sure for how long, but several major factions were not receiving the "last stand" bonus to confederation. For many races, only minor factions received the buff. This has been corrected. Major factions are still less likely than minor ones to agree to confederation in general (this is how CA has always had things), BUT this has been offset by a higher Last Stand Bonus to make them just as likely as minor factions to confederate when about to die as a minor faction would be. You will now see a massive boost to the Confederation diplomacy option when a major faction is extremely close to death as originally intended.

@Leaf
The mod should work fine. I have covid and am quite out of it. I will check all mods and update them in a week or so once I feel better and have caught up on work

update pls

yep did it and it works

@RageFreeman
This mod doesn't add any options, it just changes the likelihood of acceptance. Client State is (I believe) for Tomb Kings, Vassalage is for Chaos/WOC (I don't know if anyone else gets it). If you want all the options and this mod, I'd recommend finding a mod that adds more diplomacy options, load it higher in your steam load order than this one (so if this mod is 10, that mod should be anywhere 1-9).

hey, weird thing i have none of the options mentionned. No vassalage etc..only peace treaty confederation and usual military alliance etc

@Leaf
If you are using a mod that unlocks diplomacy for them, then yes. It just changes values for already available options, it doesn't make new options available on its own. But if you have a different mod that opens those options, this mod will work for those factions.

does this affect factions that technically cant use diplomacy? like khorne , beastmen?

@hi3r0ph4nt
Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about that if it's caused by the game not recognizing bad relations yet

usually it was an order nation with which i hadn't had contact, so there wasn't time for our relationship to slide into red

bit wonky, i've had the dwarves (and the sigmar guy in the desert, and other order forces) offer to be my vassalsswhile playing as... Belakor

Holy shit this is precisely what I've been looking for! Amazing work :) Gonna try it out in my campaign right now.

@Gaston
It is possible. If a faction hates yours enough, sometimes they would rather die. What is their attitude number towards your faction?

I've played with both Sigvald AND Valkya and tried to vassalize Khatep or Grombrindal... and it doesn't work. Even with no armies left, even with just one settlement constantly sacked, they still refuse. Is it normal even with this boost from the mod ? They are more than close to death they are at the bottom of the power ranking list, like I'm rank 3 and them 190...

@Lord Tzeentch
This mod does not change who can confederate who, only how likely a nation is to accept if they are about to be destroyed. I don't know if you can do that in the base game or not, but whatever is allowed or not by the base game isn't effected by this mod.

Hi, thank you for your mod, I have a question about it, can I play as Archaon or Belakor and get the option to confederate the other demon races? Daniel, N'kari, Kohlek, the new champions? I'm trying to play as the end game :)