This mod changes a single DB value so that can hardly cause a compatibility issue ;-)

No crashes for me, but I don't see it anymore on the campaign map. I haven't played for awhile so I'm going through each mod that isn't workings since CA's recent hotfix.

Causes CTD with the release of patch 6.1.0

Oh ok, cool beans 👍

No mod works perfectly, it just won't have options. It will always be 1 turn penalty (which is fine, try it and see).

So, mod is broken for now then?

Turns out I was wrong, I can't use MCT to change db table options. So I'd have to make a new mod to change setting from 1 turn penalty to 2 turn penalty. Super lame but CA doesn't have the tools.

No need to update

Update!

Monocleddog: That to my knowledge cannot be changed. Threaten is hardcoded to be either war or they pay. What made no sense is how threaten ruined diplomatic reliability.

MCT the way to go!

MCT menu would be great! Only change I'd make is make it so there isn't automatic war but instead -75 diplomacy or so.

The mod works perfectly.

Works fine no need to update (per usual)

ANIME

update

i never got my head around why CA didnt just copied a bunch of stuff from 3 kingdoms. Imagine ogres got contracts like the merc contracts there *_* and greasus has dong zhuos intimadate to force diplomacy....or yuan shaos weapons stuff for clan rictus...list goes on .-.

Good Job for you're mod thanks. It could be usefull to add a MCT profile as you said in your description

yep might be completely broken, works once in a blue moon

threaten is useless regarless of the reliability... the usual scenario goes like: you have 16+ provinces and threaten a sub faction who had a 3 unit army and ONE province and ofc they refuse... i cant remember any time i used threaten and they actually accepted it no matter how far im ahead of them... the AI is just dumb as hell.

All it does is check to see when last version of mod was published against last time game is updated. It just compares dates, which can be useful, but far from comprehensive.

wait really? so its just like... 'design' logo of being out of date?

and yes im one of those ppl but i just don't rant lol, tho yes i find it annoying seeing as 'out of date' mod but running normally

Louie: it's cuz the mod launcher says the mod itself is out of date, most people have no idea how worthless that feature is.

@Forlorn i swear people have bots that run around yelling at modders to update their mods that dont need to be updated... i make submods and it's constant

This mod won't need updating until CA changes how threaten works, maybe in Warhammer 4 (it will be years in my estimation before threaten is updated by CA). So no this mod won't need updates for a long time.

Out Of Date Update Please .

Your mod made me notice this weak diplomatic option for the first time, thanks

Ya seemingly threaten almost never works, kind a sad but ya CA needs to either rework the mechanic or buff It to make It worth a damn.

Go figure that after I found a mod that might make threatening more interesting/useful I haven't had a decent scenario for threatening in days. RIP me!

I did not know that you had to wait 15 turns to fix your reliability once you threatened the enemy huh...

I always thought that the threaten mechanic was poorly implemented. The correct way should have been that once you threaten someone who doesn’t accept your request, you must choose between: 1º declining your petition (in which case there would be no war but your reliability would decrease) or 2º going to war (with no penalties to your reliability afterall you're fulfilling your threat...).

Already learned a lot about threatening and the system behind it, thanks for your detailed description of the mod. Might try the mod out as well

noskill: Threaten sorta already works that way, if you threaten factions you have treaties with it can be extremely punishing if it results in war

reaper: sorry but your idea doesn't make sense to me, a threat is a threat, and the game already weighs who you are making the threat to (threatening your friends is very costly, threatening neutrals or enemies is not). So greenskins threatening humans is no big deal, but greenskins threatening other greenskins can result in broken treaties and major penalties.

yes axios should work fine on any save

Can I add this mid campaing?

Have an award for doing the devs work

I don t know if the amount of reliability loss could be tied towards the diplomatic relations.

You´d exspect to lose more reliability if you threaten a friendly faction instead of an already hostile one.

It would also be cool if you actually could back out of the threat again or have other means of sanctioning the faction

@Forlorn Ah well thanks but I am not looking for like an entire rework or anything, was mainly asking for a sub mode of this to affect just the main baddies because I felt like It made more sense and would be a nice little buff for them.

Always felt a Greenskin threatening would would have more weight then a human for example.
I'm sure people like the mod the way it Is just wanted to make a request If It was possible, If not then nice mod and have a good day.

hello, I would like to make a request to modify the penalty. -1 is far too little, -15 is far too much, you understand? excuse me too I am French and very poor in English, so it's google translation. have a nice day and thank you

I didn't even know you got a relationship penalty for threats. I just want to know how to even threaten someone because I've never been able to threaten someone every time they decline, so I've seen it as a way for the AI to take the players money if they aren't currently making money.

@reaper of memes: If you want less order tide you need to play my Living World mod. Order tide is a result of a poorly designed map.

Thanks to everyone else who enjoys this mod!

you are a hero mate

nice mod, love it

The main way I see using the Threaten option Is to primarily threaten a faction you are about to go to war with anyways for money this way even if you fail and go to war at least that was going to be the outcome regardless.

@Deathmon817 I believe Its chance based and the stronger your rating Is over the faction you are threatening the better your chance at It working, however even If you are the strongest faction threatening the weakest Its still not 100%.

Can anyone explain how to successfully the threaten option? When ever I use the option it always fails.

@Forlorn do you think you could do a sub mod that only does this affect for Races that would generally threaten and thus wouldn't be unexpected from them?.

Examples being: Greenskins, Ogre Kingdoms, Norscans, Dark Elves, Daemons, Warriors of Chaos, Beastmen, Chaos Dwarfs, Vampire Coast, Skaven.

I also feel this would help out the Destructive and Chaos races with the Order tide being so strong.

Submit or Die never felt so good.

Are you a god?!

But yeah I thought out this a good long while ago, just didn't have the knowhow to actually make it.