@Bluetail

Yeah, you need to edit text file in game folder ( data\shaders\ gridplane.frag )
(backup that file first - any typo here will cause game crash)

Replace line #25 to this:

outFragColor.a *= 0.0;

Not sure where to ask for the RTS element but is there a way to get rid of the flat plane 2d texture that really bothers me in RTS mode...

PS:

Assuming you're asking about just base Xavorion, without optionals from extended gameplay preset.

@Moshine

Encounters, Weapons - yes, those heavily depend on features that dont exist in base game.(Or would not make any sense in base game)

Some can be disabled for Xavorion, some can enabled for Vanilla - depends on what you're looking for. There was an answer already at FAQ discussions - since it was too long to fit into comment, here's a link (3rd post from top).

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/2923179923/4348858679323574514/?ctp=3

Do these mods absolutely require all of the other mods IOT function? these seem modular with respect to the scripting framework

i see gues i just have to live with it for now(as everything els renders flawless no stutter or lagg)
so thank you many for help and wish you great new Years

@ZeroTwo-Chan

Then I have no idea what's going on, if that still happens on fresh save.
What's worse is that I dont have those issues on much weaker gaming rig than yours,
and havent seen them on streams either.

The standard procedure would be disabling background apps that could choke the game, or even drivers reinstall.
Trying without Twitch/OBS/Wallpaper Engine, or anything else that has GPU/Video support/usage would be my first check.

You can ask in Avorion forums/discord, maybe others had/have similiar issues?

@LM13 i did test on a copy and freash save with just your set

https://i.imgur.com/gWPPTqA.png

and it still happens Server logg shows notting ad all and client shows same error
idk whut i am doing wrong :(

That one can be ignored, if nothing else shows up - I'd check a save copy without other mods, compare frame times to make sure if that changes anything.

and only 1 result google gave mne was post from 2018

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/app/445220/discussions/0/1697169163398501436/?l=thai

also sometimes it diffrent index numbers

@LM13 ooh didnt even know how but after quick google adn looking ad time stamp i get

Entity with index 3ddce0d7-0838-4483-b521-1fb55a872af6 has no script with index '7'.

every time something spawns no clue whut this means

@ZeroTwo-Chan

I see, you can check serverlog for errors - maybe something is spamming and reducing performance.

If that's not the case - I'd recommend making a copy of that galaxy - then check those frame spikes with all other mods disabled.

@LM13 i managed to get a recording up with OBS

https://youtu.be/O3V2zqK9Aro?si=LoVHsXJtZz0gYMlI&t=104

i had FPS graph turned on so its easyer to see but this was only small groups but it shows the issue (sound might be little loud)

@LM13 thats alot smoother than whut i have if you like i could turn on my Twitch(its whut i had setup) and show you my troubles as i am currently ingame
we can also take the chat there? or somewhere as not to spamm here if you would like

@ZeroTwo-Chan

You can compare to recent TPP combat recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6C-1a4pmr4&t=70s

@ZeroTwo-Chan

That's strange. You don't have DevMode enabled in mods settings right? ( It should be ticked off )

Any script/mod can cause lags, not only spawn related( learned this the hard way )
Last content update patch had massive performance improvements,
I don't think its possible to get lower than that.

* also i am not only one the other guy playing with me on the server has same lagg just worsh cause he has shitty PC

@LM13 i am running I9-13900KS with 2080TI and DDR5-6400 RAM and i have a decent stutter with no faction packs
it is posible other mods cause but pretty much everything i have is your set
+ some new missions and SDKs tech subsystem pack notting that should have anythign to do with spawning

@ZeroTwo-Chan thank u for explaining, will definetely try!

@ZeroTwo-Chan

There should be no lag spikes anymore, unless you're using Faction Packs with high block count ships.
That, or some other mods lagging.

There's only a minor stutter when ships warp in on Ryzen 2600, nothing that would impact gameplay.
Should be almost same as vanilla.

@Feindkontakt

Mods that have Xavorion listed as requirement will need all 15 mods and fresh save.
Those that can be safely added to existing saves are:

CombatAI, Docking, Flight Physics, Formations

Class System can be added, but it cannot be uninstalled without breaking already spawned ships.
If you want to try it - backup your save file.

soo not sure if its this mod but is it posible this mod is cause massive lag spikes when enemys warp in i cna see the warp shockwaves than a huge lagg spike hist as the enemys render in as they spawn as a cube and than change to new ship forms(they also immunne for while) i just wondering if there is a solution to stop this caus with how many waves i need to fight on avarage its beginning to be a huge bother specialy when new wave warps in while still fighting the old wave i know its hollidays time i dont expect any big workd done just trowing out ideas and troubles

If I only add certain modules or even only one, do I still need a fresh save for them to work?

@NeEtoNeYa

Xavorion works with latest 2.3.2, what's wrong?

Update?

@LM13 ye

@TheSpudGunGamer

Most likely, enabling new sector generator on existing saves will just break them in one way or another.
I'll probably have to fill in description pages before planned update. Only main mod page has any info on that.

@LM13 I'm pretty sure I had sectors installed. It might have been because it was loaded onto a galaxy that was previously unmodded.

@TheSpudGunGamer

This is a bug that appears when you use Encounters without new Sectors / SectorGenerator modules, or have otherwise broken Xavorion setup.

Might I ask a question? Why the [Fifty Percent Off] are there so many? Its only been like half an hour and my sector is flooded with ship. They aren't even hostile, they aren't even doing anything, they're just taking up Processing power.

ohh im really nervous about the fixes that will come then my beloved mod cane came back in use

Good to know I will remove ESCC and all mods that rely on it then.

Hope you can get compatibility to work.

@Alastair

Currently, all missions based on Extra Ship Classes Core don't work.
I'll test for possible compatibility before releasing next update.
If that works, at least some support will be added.

Would the spawning work with ESCC and mods like Core Encounters, Lords of the Waste etc? That add new bosses and things?

Since I have been having issues with pirates and things not spawning when doing combat missions like disrupt pirate attack.

I know it doesn't work with prototype dreadnaught from the new missions mod. But not sure on the others.

ill gratefully hoping that you will find some time to fix the discussed issue and im finaly can spice up the fights more again ^^

Thanks, what was important is that those are Merchant ships, and I did not expect that.
This is a bug that I'll have to fix. (Though it only appears when using some modules instead of full overhaul.)

Thanks

nahh ill create a new galaxy since ive not progresseg too far only 20 ships and 2 day playtrime should not be anoying but ill leave it be couse have an other save whit an farguut class battleship but cant really play anymore my own sector has pover 500+ ships + mine and the traders its laggy so to avoid spawning more i had to pause that save the names almost in the same pattern like (name-most of then beginning whit I )-(Merchant -M1-M2 -or Light or Medium) these kind ships whit al differnt naming still standing around and they wont get away the classes and stuff mostly matches only the name and shape differs often

@Paradoxon360

I've read your other post on early game money discussion - please do not add sector generator to your current save file - you can break it that way.

@Paradoxon360

Ah, you've found a bug when not using full overhaul. What are the names of those ships that spawn? Maybe there's no need to start over just yet.

wait youre saying sectorgen is cleaning up well i use only the scriptsframework, fleet gen, encounters, combat ai , vessel classes whitout any other of your mods if sector gen is cleaning up i should consider adding that but i thing for that i need to make a new save ... again :(

@Paradoxon360

This has to be a mod conflict. Empty sectors can bug out like this, but not others.

Issue like this was present some time ago - but Sector Generator cleans up every sector once you visit it. What are the names of those ships? Consignors? Merchants? Something else?

feels like something is broke in the spaining system got mulitple systemns whit over 200+ -- 700+ merchant ships just stuck in sytsem just as i mention ed in class system comments is there a way to reduce that or delete them couse will not shoot down my allys ^^

@Lasgalen88

Thanks, this was not intended - spawns should be more balanced at low tech levels.
It is a priority bug to fix.

Observation from the beginning of the game : in a tech level 1 zone, I got appropriately weak pirates, but with naonite parts. That hampers salvaging and could be a frustrating experience to a new player. The zone did contain naonite though, not sure if that's a parameter/intended behavior.

@Alastair

Sorry for late reply, I've checked:

Extra Ship Classes is extending ship generation, some of the Extra Mission Pack may not work as intended.
Same with other mods that depend on this.

Alastair, im yet to have any problem with it, i'm running a dedicated with some of the xAvorion modules: flight, combatAi, ship classes, fleet generator and its working fine. I'm using Starfall, some of the SDK mods, and the extra missions (battleship, xsotan infestation, raid and another one i dont remember) and some other mods from other authors.

Any idea if this would work/play well with Extra Ship Classes and it's mods? Such as Prototype battleship or the content mods? Since the main thing says it should work with missions. But not sure if those mods use the vanilla system or not.

@Warning:

This is in fact a bug in Xavorion - I'll be fixing this ASAP.
Staying too long in highly populated sector will spawn more ships.
Does not appear so bad without other mods though, so you should be fine.

Thanks to Hoshwog for feedback and detailed info on this issue.

sure one sec

Huh, could I ask for a list of those mods? Maybe in Bug Report thread, there may be something I did not think of.