it is still working, just try it you lazy mf

would this work with BRAN ATTILA AI mod?

DOES IS STILL WORK?

D-E-D

ty*relevant 2 me and likely many others.

Yes

does the AI use this mod?

thank you. crazy CA didnt do this themselves. formations should be uselfull

good and useful mod. Thanks!!

Thank you for this mod because without this mod, formations are pretty much useless.

me likes dis

if not still a great mod and thanks for making it I can just stick large onagers in the front of my troops to avoid much of the arrows

i play alot of defesnive battles vs the huns and i spent a good 30 mins in a sqaure formation in a tree line and the huns that spam arrow storms all day and gut me like a pig and the pike units barely last 10 mins before cut down.

can u boost shield wall and pike wall block chance to 65 and 55% + maybe the entity mass from 200 too 350 same with spear wall can that be boosted to 65%

does this work with age of vikings?

Wow, awesome find in the db. Cheers to you!

Just open the mod and you have them.

Hello, in which table did you edit the values?

здравствуйте, в какой таблице Вы редактировали значения?

Yes

Is it compatible with Radius mod?

Will love you long time if you update :)

Roman casualties came from missiles finding a gap in the roof of the testudo.
In melee one of the most common deaths would be the Roman stabbing out too far and losing their hand to a sword stroke which would fell them.

The Roman Testudo was used primary for advancing while under fire from arrows. While they were in the defensive stance it was more of like the roman version of the phalanx where they stood shoulder to shoulder. The romans were taught to fight in a shield wall. Their effectiveness significantly dropped when they were fighting in open areas and were not able to be locked in formation. They were trained to fight in streets and to be in formation at all time which did not necessarily occur. 70% arrow block damage I believe is fair. Because there was always a change of an arrow slipping past shield. Although the chance of the shield breaking was slim to none because the shields front was made of metal.

@Ben. I dont think you can have a 100 procent block chance from the front. There was always a little gab where you can fit in a sword and stab someone. Atleast that is my opinion.

Shouldn't testudo have 100% block chance? atleast from hit from above and the front?

Berggeit, as far as I remember the effect from the pikes in the air was pretty negligible, especially in the front ranks where it would have been most important. Hence why most pike units still carried shields up until the Renaissance when armor became strong enough to make a shield unnecessary.

This mod seems realy intresting but pike formations actualy had an missle block change. The pikes that stoot straight up in the air could potentialy block the paths of the arrows. Maby it would be nice to give the pike formation something like +10-20 missile block chance?

@Guthrum

Great idea! The mod looks very promising :)
Although I have to say, from reading the description, I agree with Pilon #RoadToDMG - Attacking Testudo should have some damage against infantry, and also some melee defence bonus (it is a testudo formation after all - in fact I think it should be better than shield wall but with slower movement speed).

Cheers :)

shouldnt the attacking testudo have some damage against infantry?

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this mod is crunk as fuck
these comments aren't

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Great idea !

works this mod, with other mods?

Thanks for the mod, I always thought that formations in Attila were weak, and your mod makes them better.

Yeah man. Pikes > All back then, except maybe missle troops.

Add a bonus against infantry for pike wall

pikes need to actually be able fight infantary. they used to do this well in the ancient era

Did you deleted the mass entity bonus for those formations ?
In that case, you nerfed all changed formations

If someone have ideas of other formation changes, you're free to comment them.

This is a good idea, have been wanting to do this myself for a while