Oh those people... Doesnt it just makes you want to find them and do baaad things to them?

Yes! Pathetic when people can't take the time to make their own work and claim credit from someone else.

Actually I think he just hid them because he was being harassed about them. In any case I'm sure Steam will take care of it if they are truly stolen.

im new to the whole modding process and the guidelines your all talking about so tell me if this is consider stealing lol. Okay i have a great mod Idea but it is a mash between several other players mods that have been created, this idea has same concept of other players mods but they won't be completely the same so would it still be considered stealing or not lol, again im a total noob when it comes to modding.

P.S nasty i would like to talk to you if at all possible so message me if you okay with talking to me

well okay glad to know that for future but i figured that just wanted to be sure but yea i have a great mod in mind and will need lots of help i believe it would go into 200+ hours with just a single person and on top of that one that doesn't get modding lol.

guess buckles wants a 13 week suspension.

people like that are such jackasses i mean really like you all said he probably doesn't care or give a damn pardon my language for other peoples work

well this is a bit of a test now for valve to see if they are going to back us up on this issue now

indeed that is the real question

i guess so just in it for themselves and don't give a crap on how creator feels about what they are doing

lol nice burn but yea people shouldn't do that crap

I don't think it's nearly as bad as you think SFBryan18, the fact that the mod that Jojo "made" had over 10000 subscribers is quite flattering for Jojo. The fact that it wasn't on Nexus is meaningless without considering Jojo who denied that he wanted the textures on the Workshop. Those 10000 subscribers might not have even looked for his mod on the Nexus, and therefore still be deficient.

I do however support any modders right to their own work. Those 10000 subscribers likely praised Buckles wrongly, assuming your information is correct (for a few of them I think it is, I remember distinctly him crediting Jojo for some of his work). I'll even extend that into the markets in which the mods are distributed. So if Jojo just didn't want the Workshop, then he shouldn't have the Workshop.

In any case I find absolutely revolting that there is rivalry between Nexus and the Steam Workshop. These are just two places to find mods, nothing more, nothing less. This in my mind questions the motivations of the modders. Sure some of them have difficulty posting to the Workshop, thats fine. But that isn't the case for "thefts" such as Buckles. And just because you post to the Workshop doesn't mean you can't post to the Nexus, you let the users decide what they want when you're trying to appeal to them with your mods.

PlayerTw0 I think that this issue will never cease to be tested. There is nothing that can be done proactively about theft; corrections are always done retroactively. Because of this everyone will need constant vigilance, including the users about what it is exactly they are downloading. It is a nice ideal to shoot for and I wish you the best of luck.

i think Tomb *workshop admin* said on another post/discussion, that they were thinking or trying to incorperate a community into the running of workshop. becuase of your contacts with modders and from what i have seen you seem to be the most spoken on the workshop modding side of things. i would realy like to see you get the top end modder or the modders you are refering too, and brainstorm idea's of making the workshop better, and even go as far as being the high end of the community that runs it or sorts out solutions with Tomb and steam. but i think it might take you guys aproching steam to make this happen not the other way around. because i'm not absolutly sure about this but because i havn't paid anything for the workshop or to use it, i'm guessing it's a non profit part that is mostly here so we can enjoy the games longer and on different scales. i would like to see you take this aproch.

Well on the note about rivalry, yes you are comparing apples and oranges. But the different user base is exactly why you want to go for both places. I won't argue that Steam's Workshop is not as good as the Nexus, and I'm not sure it ever will be. It definitely won't be if the modding community doesn't back it up. But that is the modding community's choice.

Now I'm sure Valve is interested or in the very least willing to listen to what features they can implement to make the Workshop better, but you also have to realize the waiting time is because Valve is expanding and dealing with a lot of criticism for their slowness in dealing with stolen mods. The Nexus is already well established and is not going through these growing pains.

Also last I saw the Workshop was a free service to the end User anyway, so you're not really paying anything for using the Workshop. There aren't even advertisements on the workshop pages; yet.

There seriously needs to be more repercussion than just removing the mods. This is now the third, third, time this one user has simply re-uploaded the content. I understand somewhat that it may be a tad harsh to ban someone from steam for uploading a stolen mod once, but 3 times? One of two things needs to happen, the user uploading the stolen content either needs banned so they STOP or they need to have their upload privileges removed.

Its insane how just one user can, repeatedly, upload content that isn't theirs. Its made worse by the fact that the Steam Workshops moderation process seems to be a tad slow. Last time this work was removed it managed to get to the front page, with 10,000 downloads. After dozens of reports and several days later was it then removed. Thats just not right. Stop them uploading it in the first place, then we won't have more of this problem.