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DoctorWillCU 10 23 Apr, 2017 @ 5:54am
We were angry on mod thefting and REPORTED to Steam now!
https://s24.postimg.org/cm3iod3zp/cba_allinone_v365_and_salty_cba_v28_floor_plan_a.jpg

(Left) =HD=_CBA_ALLinONE_V365
(Mid) Salty CBA V28
(Right) Tenchy CBA

Solid Color = Terrain (Green = Grass, Blue = Water, Purple = Walkable Water)

Color-Hollow-Square = Initial Object, like Castles, Wall.

Dotted Line with Small-Yellow-Hollow-Square = Triggers Mechanic and Effect Area.


https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=852583834

I don't wanna write this post. But we were angry now.
Such behavior should have ceased in modding community.

We are welcome everyone to modify =HD=_CBA_ALLinONE develop and transform into any other edition like we did.
But wipe out all our team's member name claim as his own, it is absolutely must not happen in modding community.
Its thefting our whole team work and previous edition developers.

We had report this item to Steam now.

Request that adding all credits name listed according in our page to continue on modification:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=467582849

Included all special thanks and previous developers must be add into workshop page and any place in the game.

Its not properly wipe out all the participators for their uncountable effort.
Otherwise, this item should be taken down now.

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Paragraph below I would briefly talk about why we had formed up and developed =HD=_CBA_ALLinONE in Age of Empires 2 HD (AOE2HD).

There's no doubt we aren't the original creators and inventors.
It is easily can be find out on the internet.

Before we exist, there has few major developers update CBA for the AOE2HD.

[Latine] Cassius and sudo
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137089754

Brakebein's Edition and now Perfect CBA
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=612051143

Based on Tenchy's team CBA from Voobly.com

"A late thanks to you all but I should say it again."

Until AOE2HD update to Patch 4.0, and scenario file version had been update few times.

(Voobly.SCX)>(AOE2HD.SCX & AOE2HD.SCX2) > (AOE2HD.AOE2SCENARIO)

A big change has malfunction them for awhile.

As many players known that CBA are relying on 3-rd party editor, Trigger Studio (TS). Instead of use in-game-editor.

We can't study every line in the big file to find out which have to fix and update for new version .scx .scx2 .aoe2scenario
We had chosen that build it up start from zero.
So we can able to continue develop more easily in AOE2HD.

I would so happy invite current TS developer, mullikine(AoKH) to join us so we could continue update scenario version list above and all the bugs challenges. Formed up programmers, experienced players, artwork and graphic designer, game balance, game test and all publishers, there effort were not be find out in text and code easily. I would truly appreciate to all of them.#Hatoff

DoctorWillCU
=HD=_CBA_ALLinONE Developers Team Leader
Last edited by DoctorWillCU; 3 May, 2017 @ 6:09am
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Ozhara 216 23 Apr, 2017 @ 7:13am 
@Tawm
So because there is no drm
Nothing stops anyone from taking your map and putting in their name instead of yours
on the map and you think it's not artsy enough
that someone would claim to take credit for developing such a universal and redundant map
it is kind of ok to actually remove existing credits from it and republishing it as your own?

You even say that
I'd agree that unwelcome editing and re-crediting is frustrating
but think this just doesn't count for this mod?

In the moment existing credits were removed/replaced at the latest this is unacceptable regardless of the kind of product affected and no mistake anymore - but on purpose.
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DoctorWillCU 10 23 Apr, 2017 @ 7:47am 
Ozhara point it out clearly what I want to say. Thanks.

Its so simple, we aren't saying it cannot be modifiy, we aren't stop anyone to do more creation, we aren't saying modder has done nothing on it, its 2017 now, internet is so convience, pc were so powerful.
Just a small credit, basic manner, respect.

A publish item can be a only-few-minutes-of-gameplay, behind the scene could be unccountable hours, effort of modder and developer knowledge.

If modifiy like this in community, we don't have to do so much work, just wait someone finalize and publish, then change something from it.

**Credit delete**
Hey, its REBUILD by me. Simply Improved blah blah blah. So much internet content waiting for me to REBUILD.
Is it right, isn't it?
Last edited by DoctorWillCU; 23 Apr, 2017 @ 7:50am
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zerolun 3 23 Apr, 2017 @ 8:31am 
@Tawm
I cant imagine anyone can say something like you. Dont underestimate the efforts of docterwillcu and his team. If we dont respect their efforts, there maybe no more update for this map
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zerolun 3 23 Apr, 2017 @ 8:36pm 
@Tawm
That is not my focus. I guess we didnt dicuss the game balance, that is a different issue.
As i have no knowledge on map making, before this post i didnt know that this map just copy CBA ALLinONE and just add some new things on it. I thought that he just base on CBA ALLinONE and remake it from zero. If the major part of his map is just copying, he shall credit the CBA ALLinONE's team.
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gagman 6 23 Apr, 2017 @ 10:28pm 
One of the uploader of the stolen CBA is a known stealer in the aoe 2 community.
There was also a discussion about him at aoe 2 reddit and aok heavnegames.
Just keep reporting him to steam and hopefully they take his access to upload there.
Last edited by gagman; 23 Apr, 2017 @ 10:28pm
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Euron_AoC 49 24 Apr, 2017 @ 2:24am 
This map is a complete rebuild, the person behind the idea was not even Trenchy, he developed it with better triggers. Any builds after that are reinterpretation. Mine is a rebuild from basics. I messaged you doc a while back but you only blocked me.

Quote, 'Hey Doc, this is Euron Naharis. Messaging to apologize for recent strife, I hope we can overcome any misunderstanding. I misjudged your motivations behind your anti cheat through TS and thought the worst of your character, sorry. As for Salty CBA, never was this meant as an attack on you or meant to take any glory from your CBA, rather something you might want to use to improve your own. Similar to your version of CBA, salty CBA uses parts from other CBA maps; if you are unhappy with my use of parts of your version I would rather we discourse then take rash actions. Best wishes, Euron Naharis'

This post is just you trying to wipe out competition against your map, if anyone has not played my map I ask you to try it out, it is very different and performs much better.
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Euron_AoC 49 24 Apr, 2017 @ 2:26am 
Id like everyone before posting to open my version in trigger studios so they can see the extent of the rebuild.
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DoctorWillCU 10 24 Apr, 2017 @ 2:28am 
Ask how to break down ANTI-CHEAT > YOU APOLOGIZE > I IGNORE = I give up?
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Euron_AoC 49 24 Apr, 2017 @ 2:31am 
Your broken English is a joke. Listen, I have nothing against you or your map, indeed many good memory's i have of CBA are playing along side you. There is no reason for your anger, if you want anything added to the credits in my map, unblock me and we can set up a skype and talk about it.
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DoctorWillCU 10 24 Apr, 2017 @ 5:52am 
Which versoin you based on rebuild your Salty CBA?
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Euron_AoC 49 24 Apr, 2017 @ 6:28am 
Flat plain of grass.
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Kryos 4 24 Apr, 2017 @ 11:53am 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcqQC02YbY
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SLC 2 24 Apr, 2017 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by PK_JohnDenverLover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcqQC02YbY
RT
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FletcheR 2 24 Apr, 2017 @ 7:06pm 
Originally posted by PK_JohnDenverLover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcqQC02YbY
^^ +rep
Last edited by FletcheR; 24 Apr, 2017 @ 7:07pm
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Euron_AoC 49 28 Apr, 2017 @ 3:33pm 
This is my only way to contact you doc, i have received your DMCA and am ready to counter file. Will you be ready to settle this in court? Please can we get in touch.
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