Mount & Blade: Warband

Mount & Blade: Warband

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Ayetch 22 May, 2023 @ 7:27am
What Happened to the Civil War Mod?
I just found the Civil War Mod and started playing it a couple days ago and it was great. The historic looking towns and cities. Boston & New York were amazing. Anyone know what happened to it? Don't tell me someone reported it.
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Arbiter Thel 22 May, 2023 @ 3:47pm 
it was DMCA'd because it was uploaded to the workshop without the OC's permission. it will be uploaded by the OC in a few weeks time to both the workshop and Moddb along with a huge update
Tregs 22 May, 2023 @ 4:18pm 
Some kind of internal drama, we can't see the forum now since it has been removed (the discussion under the mod page). But, there was some kind of dispute over who should control the Steam workshop page essentially.

Hopefully they will get it worked out and bring it back, great mod, lots of potential, and both of them are skilled modders.
Ayetch 22 May, 2023 @ 4:55pm 
Gottcha thank you. Thankfully I downloaded it from ModdDB
Ayetch 22 May, 2023 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by Arbiter Thel:
it was DMCA'd because it was uploaded to the workshop without the OC's permission. it will be uploaded by the OC in a few weeks time to both the workshop and Moddb along with a huge update

Huge update as in new content? That's exciting.
Arbiter Thel 22 May, 2023 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by Ayetch:
Originally posted by Arbiter Thel:
it was DMCA'd because it was uploaded to the workshop without the OC's permission. it will be uploaded by the OC in a few weeks time to both the workshop and Moddb along with a huge update

Huge update as in new content? That's exciting.
yes, new units, weapons, bug fixes, scenes, quests, etc. it gonna be a treat
Cquarto91 23 May, 2023 @ 5:40am 
Modder had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over WSE being required uploaded without permisson and rage quit lol
Ayetch 25 May, 2023 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by Cquarto91:
Modder had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over WSE being required uploaded without permisson and rage quit lol

Does that mean hes not still working on it or he is?
Cquarto91 25 May, 2023 @ 5:51am 
Originally posted by Ayetch:
Originally posted by Cquarto91:
Modder had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over WSE being required uploaded without permisson and rage quit lol

Does that mean hes not still working on it or he is?
No but it is being worked on by others
King85 1 26 May, 2023 @ 6:41pm 
Hello, King85 here. I am the original creator of The American Civil War Mod: Revived. I began work on this mod by myself in 2019, and have been aided in development over the last several years by many people, including Mad Scientist, who joined the team last year. What happened was that Mad Scientist randomly decided to unfriend me and quit the mod because he believes that releasing a mod that we know might crash for some people, and having WSE2 as a recommendation/requirement to resolve those crashes, is "unethical". WSE2 is basically a requirement for all major overhaul mods for Mount & Blade: Warband, because the M&B engine limits the amount of virtual memory you can use, is poorly optimized, and full of bugs.

He had created a set of low quality textures to help improve performance, but the improvements were only marginal and did not resolve the crashes, because the real underlying issue is the M&B engine. WSE2 is a new engine for M&B, and it solves all of the problems that the old one has. I told him that I had no problem including his low quality textures in a separate package as an option for players who felt they needed it, but that we should use the normal textures by default and continue to recommend players use WSE2, and possibly also include WSE2 in the mod package so that people don't have to make a separate download for it.

For some reason, Mad Scientist did not like this at all and felt that it was enough reason to abruptly quit the mod, and since he had uploaded the mod to the workshop on my behalf because I was having trouble getting it uploaded under my account, he had the power to remove me as an author from my own mod on the workshop, and did so. I really have no idea why he took such grave exception to recommending people who have crashes to use WSE2, and include the low quality textures as a separate option for the player to choose, there really wasn't any problem at all with this, but that's what he's decided to do.

Thankfully the mod was already basically finished by the time Mad Scientist decided to quit, so once I've sorted out some final bugs, the mod will be uploaded to moddb first, and then to the steam workshop afterwards. I apologize for the inconvenience, but this will be very much a temporary process. Everything should be up and running sometime in the next week or two.
Ayetch 28 May, 2023 @ 6:56am 
Originally posted by WarmDeliciousDrugs (King85):
Hello, King85 here. I am the original creator of The American Civil War Mod: Revived. I began work on this mod by myself in 2019, and have been aided in development over the last several years by many people, including Mad Scientist, who joined the team last year. What happened was that Mad Scientist randomly decided to unfriend me and quit the mod because he believes that releasing a mod that we know might crash for some people, and having WSE2 as a recommendation/requirement to resolve those crashes, is "unethical". WSE2 is basically a requirement for all major overhaul mods for Mount & Blade: Warband, because the M&B engine limits the amount of virtual memory you can use, is poorly optimized, and full of bugs.

He had created a set of low quality textures to help improve performance, but the improvements were only marginal and did not resolve the crashes, because the real underlying issue is the M&B engine. WSE2 is a new engine for M&B, and it solves all of the problems that the old one has. I told him that I had no problem including his low quality textures in a separate package as an option for players who felt they needed it, but that we should use the normal textures by default and continue to recommend players use WSE2, and possibly also include WSE2 in the mod package so that people don't have to make a separate download for it.

For some reason, Mad Scientist did not like this at all and felt that it was enough reason to abruptly quit the mod, and since he had uploaded the mod to the workshop on my behalf because I was having trouble getting it uploaded under my account, he had the power to remove me as an author from my own mod on the workshop, and did so. I really have no idea why he took such grave exception to recommending people who have crashes to use WSE2, and include the low quality textures as a separate option for the player to choose, there really wasn't any problem at all with this, but that's what he's decided to do.

Thankfully the mod was already basically finished by the time Mad Scientist decided to quit, so once I've sorted out some final bugs, the mod will be uploaded to moddb first, and then to the steam workshop afterwards. I apologize for the inconvenience, but this will be very much a temporary process. Everything should be up and running sometime in the next week or two.


Thank you for explaining. I am glad you plan on re-uploading it to steam when you polish it. I do not believe it is unethical to use WSE2 nor do I believe it unethical to publish it if it will crash. Hell, the vanilla game crashes sometimes. I've already put 30+ hours in the mod and had it crash many times but its so fun, I just reload it and keep going. Save often and you will be fine. Keep going, this is a work of art!

Edit: I believe that it would be unethical to deprive the community of the mod because it may crash. I do not know mad scientist but I do not agree with his/her/other viewpoint.
Last edited by Ayetch; 28 May, 2023 @ 6:58am
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