Oh man, even funnier I noticed after I wrote this: They entirely wiped out one faction. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hilarious.

The Zann Invasion will come in two waves If I remeber correctly the first is the one who is running from the zan empire because he tried a cup and failed so he takes his loyalist and teravelled to Perisno to search for a new start and to try to consolidate his power over those land before the other one, which If I resume correctly is the actual ruling emperor of the Zann Empire, come after him to defeat and kill him once and for all, they are pretty much overpowered army, each one of the Generals count 1000 troops... but they can be defeated espacially with strong archer or crossbowman, but very heavy infantry and cavalry can resist their charge too, with the archer is a bit more simple because what the Zann Empire luck a bit is ranged troops, or better, they do have strong archer but initial armies are focused on heavy infantry and cavalry and when the initial army is defeated and the generals start recruiting again they will focus again on heavy infantry and cavalry for the most, so ranged troops is their weakness not because they don't have it but because they don't recruit them. so even if you don't manage to defeat them they will less overpowered because the two waves wil clush one against the other and then when all the big armies are defeated the generals will recruit troops like normal lords do. without spamming again 1000 troops.

The best strategy is to defeat them at the gate of one of your faction citites becuase they will be much more vulnerable, number does not really count when defending the walls, or to defeat them one be one waiting for the right oppurtunity to take over one single army at time, all their forces togheter can be a bit impossible to defeat on the open field but one army at time.... can be done, this tactis work especially welll when played with the Naphali and Elintor, they have the most efficient archer you will ever see in perisno and they are likely to kill every enemy with a single shoot.

Also if I remember correctly one is the Zann Dinasty wich invade first and the other is the Jin Empire which come after them

TBH these were some drunken emotional thoughts but my overall point stands:

They suck and they ruin the overall experience of the mod pre-invasion. I'm playing the mod for everything *but* the Zann. I'm already pretty much mediocre at Warband. I just want to play at my own pace and skill but it seems like this mod really isn't made for more casual players, so my loss I guess. Even the wikipedia itself says you'll have a much harder time if you don't have elite units and can't beat them all at the start, then you're pretty screwed. Especially since if you can't take out any of their armies, they just continue to wreak havoc. All of the other nation's armies sucked lol, especially since apparently the Zann just win auto-resolve fights. I mean it's insane that the army appears and *no one* can fight back? Power trip that the player character has to single handedly fight them off? Just feels really weird and as if not a lot of thought went into it.

I saw some discussions saying they just took over half the map and they didn't have any resources or were too far behind in level, army, etc. to fight back. That also seems to be a lose condition which is kind of stupid tbh. I also saw other comments saying that you should rush for marshall so you can just fight them with a marshalled army behind you... That takes FOREVER to get Marshall and the AI is very wonky. Often times armies will just leave you after you marshall. Even if you were able to fight back after they 'settle down', it'd take way too long to retake everything and the fact that it just wipes out entire factions is insane.

I just don't have the time or care to 'train' myself to play a certain way. I was having trouble training units *and* getting enough income overall. I refuse to grind away at the arena for hours like some people suggest, and I also definitely refuse to spec a 'trader' to exploit my way to riches. I just want to run around and kill ♥♥♥♥ in a fantasy world.

Great mod because it's the most unique Warband mod I've seen but wow the Zann really just appear out of nowhere and ruin it for players like me. If there was an option to turn them off or something I'd be down for it. I don't even think they're that cool or interesting honestly. Mostly because of how they appear, it just makes them come off as obnoxious and annoying.

As I said you have only to resist and also you should join any fights where the Zann is attacking a city and even battle in the open field because autoresolve take in consideration their number, which is overwhelming, and will give victory to the zann with almost none to insignificant loss for them, but when you battle them directly they can't spawn their entire army in the field which is where you take the advantage and you can do a lot more damage to the Zann, you have to resist a little and then the Jin will arrive, which will attack the Zann and they will pretty much destroy each other and you will have all the time to take back what was your because after the big clash of their armies and with their generals defeated, as I said, they will not spwan again with 1000 man, but instead they will recruit troops like normal AI Lord