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Kazeck 31 May, 2023 @ 8:36am
Nymphs, and other units.
Traditionally in AoW, and in the lore from which Nymphs are derived, they are depicted as attractive, feminine, and well...fleshy.

The Nymph ended up looking like a weird plant alien for this edition.

I'm not saying we need the completely nude nymphs of AoW 1-2, nor does it have to be NSFW in general, but it would be nice for relevant creatures to be genuinely attractive, it reminds me of how planet-fall's succubot's were genuinely hideous IMO.

So is anyone planning to fix this? If not I'll have to dig around in the editor and make an elf female with the cloth covering/underwear basically as a simple quick and dirty model swap.
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zayzaybot 10 Apr, 2024 @ 4:51pm 
I'm surprised this is literally the only post here on the subject.
Kazeck 10 Apr, 2024 @ 5:46pm 
Originally posted by zayzaybot:
I'm surprised this is literally the only post here on the subject.
Kind of a necro, but yeah.

I mean I'm not here wanting some horny NSFW model, I just really wonder why creatures that are supposed to be universally attractive are designed this way.

I'd respect it a lot more if they were elven females, since that's just the sorta tradition, I mean we have fae/fairy's mentioned in lore, so why can't they just be 'big' fairies, i.e elves?
They can be put in a plant-dress like outfit for modesty's sake, with a moderately proportioned body (like Greek statues, i.e a mundanely shaped but beautiful woman) with green leaves and/or vines wrapped around them to cover their chests, crotch, and most of their torso in and shorts/skirt sized area, it'd be fine for everyone really.

They could have ruddy-brown 'chestnut' skin with a soft yet 'barkish' look and green hair if the desired look is a racially neutral and universal appearance, that doesn't correspond directly to any real ethnicity, eitherway making them plant people outright is just awkward.
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Dunadd 10 Apr, 2024 @ 10:41pm 
Can't say I'm a big fan of plant units either tbh. The nymphs are the least wierd looking, but I agree don't look very seductive. I'd prefer if plant units just had greenish or bark like (grey/brown/silver) skin, rather than being composed of tendrils
Kazeck 10 Apr, 2024 @ 10:45pm 
Originally posted by Dunadd:
Can't say I'm a big fan of plant units either tbh. The nymphs are the least wierd looking, but I agree don't look very seductive. I'd prefer if plant units just had greenish or bark like (grey/brown/silver) skin, rather than being composed of tendrils

Yeah, I mean the Entwined guardian sorta works, but that kind of unit is best as a singular example of tendrily-rooty guardian.

The other nature units could stand to be more traditional for certain. As for nymphs being the least weird, I think it's the bulby heads that really weird me the heck out.
zayzaybot 11 Apr, 2024 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by Kazeck:

Yeah, I mean the Entwined guardian sorta works, but that kind of unit is best as a singular example of tendrily-rooty guardian.

The other nature units could stand to be more traditional for certain. As for nymphs being the least weird, I think it's the bulby heads that really weird me the heck out.

It really is mostly just their heads, but I also don't think the spikey and horny aesthetic on their body vibes well on them either. Not very hugable for a seduction unit.
beauxner 15 Apr, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Haha, I'm not the only one that thinks this type of nymph is rather lame. Weird plants are not attractive. And the bright, varying colour scheme makes it a struggle to fit in with any colour coordination in your army.
Syrris 16 Apr, 2024 @ 4:48am 
Their current appearance actually makes more sense when you consider the setting: "Pretty human female" only works if the troops are all male (they aren't), and human (they aren't). Humans aren't the default majority on most or even present on some maps, and it's a series of increasingly large stretches to suppose that that kind of nymph would be "pretty" to a dwarf, a mole-person, or a demon-jester lizard - and that's before transformations enter the mix.


A generally humanoid plant-creature that uses a mix of illusion, mentalism, supernatural pheromones, and so on to appear as whatever is considered attractive to the victim and make their thoughts all wobbly? That actually works regardless of who the targets are or what their perceptions of beauty might be, and just as importantly, would be equally unnerving/alien to all of them.
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Kazeck 16 Apr, 2024 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by Syrris:
Their current appearance actually makes more sense when you consider the setting: "Pretty human female" only works if the troops are all male (they aren't), and human (they aren't). Humans aren't the default majority on most or even present on some maps, and it's a series of increasingly large stretches to suppose that that kind of nymph would be "pretty" to a dwarf, a mole-person, or a demon-jester lizard - and that's before transformations enter the mix.


A generally humanoid plant-creature that uses a mix of illusion, mentalism, supernatural pheromones, and so on to appear as whatever is considered attractive to the victim and make their thoughts all wobbly? That actually works regardless of who the targets are or what their perceptions of beauty might be, and just as importantly, would be equally unnerving/alien to all of them.

Sort of, the issue here is that every race has breasts, most have hair, 99% of them have completely typical humanoid body types.

Ergo the elven female of the past would be fine on the vast majority of races as is, also we have Succubi in universe who match that aesthetic with a racial adjustment to look like the base race, but still effective on all races, so the precedent also exists in universe.

That said, this is also a fantasy setting with it's roots deeply in more or less traditional tropes, also that has no explanation for why the Succubots had the same issue.

I really just think it's an aesthetic and artistic decision to have these monstrous things instead of a 'stereotype' that people would expect.
Codyksp 1 28 Apr, 2024 @ 11:06am 
Or. The Nymph becomes a racial unit. Problem solved.
Washeek 21 Jun, 2024 @ 10:58am 
There's one on Nexusmods, just saw it.
Kazeck 21 Jun, 2024 @ 6:34pm 
There wasn't at the time of this post, that I was aware of, thank you!
Soft-Hands 24 Jun, 2024 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by Washeek:
There's one on Nexusmods, just saw it.

Yeah, though I'm not sure if it works with the new updates. If anyone tries it out, be sure to let us know if it still works!:steamthumbsup:
Rime 30 Jun, 2024 @ 11:26am 
I am working on a more beautiful look for the nymphs, it's ready to go but there's just the issue with the formations looking demorphed with large/thin limbs for some reason, once someone gets back to me on that I'll have it uploaded and post the link here.
Kazeck 30 Jun, 2024 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Rime:
I am working on a more beautiful look for the nymphs, it's ready to go but there's just the issue with the formations looking demorphed with large/thin limbs for some reason, once someone gets back to me on that I'll have it uploaded and post the link here.
Awesome, can't wait to see it!
suejak 5 Jul, 2024 @ 5:41pm 
Would be more interested if the default nymph is a twinkish fursona-type male with a very very skinny thong. I know we can all agree this would be hot for all manner of creatures out there in the multiverse.
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