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Hayhouse 19 Jun, 2024 @ 10:20pm
Mechanical Hive and Recruitment mods (need help)
I think there may need to be a patch for Mechanical Hive Recruits. A Mech Queen is supposed to appear in Black Desert City bar, she and her squad will not appear. Once I edited some of the data, I got her to show up to the bar as a bar squad. It appeared as though she was trying to find a Hive throne or something before. However, even after she showed up, there is no option to talk to her, let alone recruit her, even though it looks like she should be scripted that way in the mod files. I really don't know how to use the mod maker software, I barely figured out how to get her to show up properly. I've spent about 4 hours trying to google and figure out how to fix her Recruitment but I can't seem to do it. I think the 2 modders that made those mods (Mech Hive and Recruit Mech Hive) aren't updating anymore so I don't know if anyone here can help?
Last edited by Hayhouse; 19 Jun, 2024 @ 10:29pm
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Cattrina 112 20 Jun, 2024 @ 4:27am 
Well, first I must ask: 1) what other mods are you using? and 2) what mods are loaded after these two mods? You can paste your mods.cfg file to answer both questions.
Hayhouse 20 Jun, 2024 @ 8:59am 
I appreciate the help, i am a total noob when it comes to this stuff and just try to learn from google as much as i can


yundao_hair_conversion.mod
jrpg_vanilla.mod
aniceoaktrees_hairstyles.mod
Recruit Anyone.mod
RadiantFaces.mod
Political Map Redux.mod
Players Slavery.mod
PAK_Unit.mod
Little Better Farm Fences.mod
Great Anims Mod.mod
Expanded Vanilla Armor.mod
Compressed Textures Project.mod
Bounties Galore.mod
Animal Traders.mod
Advanced Training.mod
256 Squad Limit.mod
0_Dog_Backpack.mod
Universal Wasteland Expansion.mod
Playable Skeleton subraces.mod
NoArmorPenalty.mod
Driftmetal Remnants.mod
Indoor Refineries.mod
Vassalize the World.mod
Peeler Machine.mod
Unofficial Patches for Kenshi.mod
Moisture Farming.mod
Copper drill.mod
Cactus Fibers Fabric.mod
Backpack Crafting.mod
2PN8MoistureFarmingEnhanced.mod
SaneChain-fastercraft.mod
First.mod
FasterEverything.mod
10x faster training.mod
storage.mod
Weaklings Always Give XP.mod
Resource abundance.mod
RIY+ (The Scientific Method).mod
Kill Item.mod
Iron Fortress Armor Set.mod
Gusoku Armor Less-Bulky Version.mod
shoppingecon.mod
New Mod.mod
processor fix.mod
sideways wall ramp.mod
shops have more money.mod
shops have more items +.mod
shops have more blueprint +.mod
TameBeasties.mod
Slopeless.mod
NPC enjoys more shopping.mod
Dialogue Expanded.mod
BoltsMoreCharges.mod
Animal hunger disabled.mod
odaxmaxs biome Tweak.mod
ScarierSpiders.mod
Less Clutter x0.50.mod
Automated farming.mod
Hive Shops Trade.mod
no venge beams.mod
SuperWell.mod
ScarierSpiders TB.mod
MegaPlatform.mod
MegaHaulerBot.mod
Mechanical_Hive.mod
MecHiveRecruits.mod
Hive Prosthetics.mod
Adventurers Guild - Lore Friendly Recruitment.mod
UWE - TB Compatibility Patch.mod
UWE - AG-LFR Compatibility Patch.mod
Cattrina 112 20 Jun, 2024 @ 9:21am 
256 recruit limit should be last :)

You have only four mods after those mods you mentioned, which could be overwriting the recruitment. I know all four and I do not think they are the issue. So it looks like you are right, in that those two mods need a patch.

Unfortunately I do not have any time this weekend, but I could look in to this on Monday.
Hayhouse 20 Jun, 2024 @ 9:34am 
thanks for the tip on the load order, and when you get time, if you find anything, that would be awesome!

i looked more into some stuff and i *think* that UWE contains Mechanical_Hive within its files...so I had tried disabling Mechanical_Hive to see if it would fix things, but MecHiveRecruits is dependent on Mechanical_Hive. When i loaded the game with Mechanical_Hive disabled and MecHiveRecruits still enabled, half my hive became humans and the queen was still there but still couldnt talk, even on an import.

so as far as i can tell, even if UWE has part or all of Mechanical_Hive within its own files, Mechanical_Hive still needs to be there for any of recruitment to take place under MecHiveRecruits.
Cattrina 112 20 Jun, 2024 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by Hayhouse:
thanks for the tip on the load order, and when you get time, if you find anything, that would be awesome!

i looked more into some stuff and i *think* that UWE contains Mechanical_Hive within its files...so I had tried disabling Mechanical_Hive to see if it would fix things, but MecHiveRecruits is dependent on Mechanical_Hive. When i loaded the game with Mechanical_Hive disabled and MecHiveRecruits still enabled, half my hive became humans and the queen was still there but still couldnt talk, even on an import.

so as far as i can tell, even if UWE has part or all of Mechanical_Hive within its own files, Mechanical_Hive still needs to be there for any of recruitment to take place under MecHiveRecruits.

I mean I am gonna make you one XD

If you disable the mechanical hive, then you need to load the recruit thing after UWE.
Hayhouse 20 Jun, 2024 @ 9:45am 
amazing, thank you! and ill fiddle around with the load order disabling it again to see, ill report back if i find anything new that works
Cattrina 112 23 Jun, 2024 @ 1:53am 
I have now investigated this. It appears the Mech recruitment mod is not defective. Your problem is UWE and the fact that you are loading UWE first. UWE ads soooo many more recruits in the Black Desert bar that the poor Hive Princess, being loaded after all 16 possible recruits in the Black Desert bar has virtually no chance to appear. Also there is no queen in these two mods to be recruited, So if you have seen a queen and her retinue, it must be added by some other mod you have.

Try loading UWE and its patches last, just before the 256 recruit limit. In this way you basically load the mech princess first to the recruitment list and the 16 people from the UWE later, so she will be on top of the selection list and thus get better chances to appear.

And yes, there is some sort of Mechanical Hive included in UWE. But they are not the same files as in the Mechanical Hive mod. They look different. The Mech Hive in UWE is completely incorporated within the UWE. The separate Mech Hive is not. The Mech Hive Recruitment is made for the separate Mech Hive Mod and will not help you to recruit the Mech Hive that come from UWE. So, if you turn the Mech Hive mod off, you also need to turn Mech Hive Recruitment off.
Last edited by Cattrina; 23 Jun, 2024 @ 1:54am
Cattrina 112 23 Jun, 2024 @ 4:06am 
Thought to myself, well since I already had those mods open, could just make a patch XD

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?edit=true&id=3273678796
Last edited by Cattrina; 23 Jun, 2024 @ 4:28am
Hayhouse 23 Jun, 2024 @ 9:30pm 
oh wow, thank you! i will try to do what you recommend and try the patch out. thank you very much!
Hayhouse 23 Jun, 2024 @ 10:24pm 
I have a new question, not quite sure what may be the issue this time. I reordered my mods as you said and installed your patch. I also unsubbed/resubbed to UWE, mech hive, mech hive recruits to wipe out any changes i had made in TCS to try to change things myself earlier this week (i checked the files in tcs and my alterations were gone). I tried both loading my save and importing. Loading shows the queen and her squad, but cant talk. Importing seems to not show the queen visiting the bar anymore. I tried a few imports, but still no queen. So overall im just not sure if i still am loading something incorrectly. I also tried disabling my newer mods since last i posted my list so that my list matched the one above. this is my current mod list:

yundao_hair_conversion.mod
jrpg_vanilla.mod
aniceoaktrees_hairstyles.mod
Recruit Anyone.mod
RadiantFaces.mod
Political Map Redux.mod
Players Slavery.mod
PAK_Unit.mod
Little Better Farm Fences.mod
Great Anims Mod.mod
Expanded Vanilla Armor.mod
Compressed Textures Project.mod
Bounties Galore.mod
Animal Traders.mod
Advanced Training.mod
0_Dog_Backpack.mod
Playable Skeleton subraces.mod
NoArmorPenalty.mod
Driftmetal Remnants.mod
Indoor Refineries.mod
Vassalize the World.mod
Peeler Machine.mod
Unofficial Patches for Kenshi.mod
Moisture Farming.mod
Copper drill.mod
Cactus Fibers Fabric.mod
Backpack Crafting.mod
2PN8MoistureFarmingEnhanced.mod
SaneChain-fastercraft.mod
First.mod
FasterEverything.mod
10x faster training.mod
storage.mod
Weaklings Always Give XP.mod
Resource abundance.mod
RIY+ (The Scientific Method).mod
Kill Item.mod
Iron Fortress Armor Set.mod
Gusoku Armor Less-Bulky Version.mod
shoppingecon.mod
New Mod.mod
processor fix.mod
sideways wall ramp.mod
shops have more money.mod
shops have more items +.mod
shops have more blueprint +.mod
TameBeasties.mod
Slopeless.mod
NPC enjoys more shopping.mod
Dialogue Expanded.mod
BoltsMoreCharges.mod
Animal hunger disabled.mod
odaxmaxs biome Tweak.mod
ScarierSpiders.mod
Less Clutter x0.50.mod
Automated farming.mod
Hive Shops Trade.mod
no venge beams.mod
SuperWell.mod
ScarierSpiders TB.mod
MegaPlatform.mod
MegaHaulerBot.mod
Hive Prosthetics.mod
Adventurers Guild - Lore Friendly Recruitment.mod
0_Hive_Footwear.mod
Hiver_Expansion.mod
Hiver Expansion Craftable Faction Armor.mod
Mechanical_Hive.mod
MecHiveRecruits.mod
Universal Wasteland Expansion.mod
CBT UWE Mechanical Hive Patch.mod
UWE - AG-LFR Compatibility Patch.mod
UWE - TB Compatibility Patch.mod
256 Squad Limit.mod
Cattrina 112 24 Jun, 2024 @ 12:33am 
Well each character has a value to randomly appear. I increased the Princess' but it still is a chance to appear. Also I found out she prefers to appear on the second floor of the bar. There is no queen in any of the three mods I used. And the princess has no squad. So it must come from some other mod you have.

Are you certain it is a mechanical hive queen and not a normal hive queen?

By the way Hiver Expansion is part of the UWE and is no longer updated.
Last edited by Cattrina; 24 Jun, 2024 @ 12:38am
Hayhouse 24 Jun, 2024 @ 9:19am 
Ah, that would explain it, she inst always guaranteed to appear. I found her this morning and i nearly missed her, she had a random name so i thought at first she was a normal skeleton.

everything is working for me now. i really appreciate the help and your patch!
Cattrina 112 24 Jun, 2024 @ 9:29am 
That's great :)
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