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Jimmy 17 May, 2020 @ 3:44pm
Faceposer?
I noticed HL:A still uses logic_choreographed_scene and VCDs. I was wondering if the methods of creating choreographed scenes had changed since Source 1 and if it's still done in (a potentially updated version of) Faceposer. If so, where is Faceposer?

EDIT: It appears there is an updated Faceposer, an Icon for it exists different from the one found in the Source 1 SDK. Check in: game/core/tools/images/faceposer/appicon.ico
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Mason 18 May, 2020 @ 12:18pm 
it still uses vcd files but I don't know if they still use logic_choreographed_scene. I did see an entity called scripted_scene in the files but it doesn't seem to exist in hammer.
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Jimmy 18 May, 2020 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Mason:
it still uses vcd files but I don't know if they still use logic_choreographed_scene. I did see an entity called scripted_scene in the files but it doesn't seem to exist in hammer.
logic_choregraphed_scene is used quite heavily in HL:A, the .vmap 'ending_choreo' is a good example of this and of course, it references .vcd files. I'm gonna assume Valve has a newer version of Faceposer they'll roll out as these tools are still in beta.
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Mason 18 May, 2020 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by Jimmy:
Originally posted by Mason:
it still uses vcd files but I don't know if they still use logic_choreographed_scene. I did see an entity called scripted_scene in the files but it doesn't seem to exist in hammer.
logic_choregraphed_scene is used quite heavily in HL:A, the .vmap 'ending_choreo' is a good example of this and of course, it references .vcd files. I'm gonna assume Valve has a newer version of Faceposer they'll roll out as these tools are still in beta.
logic_choreographed_scene appears to play audio for the actors, but not any gestures or animations. I haven't worked with hammer in source 1, so i don't know if that is how it is supposed to behave.
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Jimmy 18 May, 2020 @ 1:16pm 
Yeah it does seem bugged. logic_choreographed_scene in Source 1 let you play VCDs that were made in Faceposer, they'd contain facial flexes, when to fire certain animations/map events and what sounds to play. They required a file called scenes.image to be compiled inside of Faceposer to playback in-engine. I'm not sure how it works in Source 2 but I'm gonna guess we need the ability to compile our own scenes.image again for it function properly in workshop mods.
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Mason 18 May, 2020 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by Jimmy:
Yeah it does seem bugged. logic_choreographed_scene in Source 1 let you play VCDs that were made in Faceposer, they'd contain facial flexes, when to fire certain animations/map events and what sounds to play. They required a file called scenes.image to be compiled inside of Faceposer to playback in-engine. I'm not sure how it works in Source 2 but I'm gonna guess we need the ability to compile our own scenes.image again for it function properly in workshop mods.
hopefully they fix this, I don't want this to end up in a permanent broken state.
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Jimmy 18 May, 2020 @ 4:27pm 
I hope so too. Valve did say some more tools were on the way. Hoping Faceposer is one of them.
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Witchi Tai To 16 Dec, 2022 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Mac User (gaming on a Mac):
I hope so too. Valve did say some more tools were on the way. Hoping Faceposer is one of them.
So like, sorry for necro but did valve ever release those tools or was that just something that was said?
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Jimmy 18 Dec, 2022 @ 3:00am 
No, it seems that Valve is fine with S&box taking over and giving us a more polished and feature complete Source 2 toolkit.
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