yea i agree it always bothered me there is alot left 4 dead 2 needs but valve seems to no longer give two ♥♥♥♥♥ about l4d2

the biggest mistake they made was getting rid of turtle rock

i was going to start building total conversions but i can't now because the hammer map editor is broken

but yes game definitely needs ladder sounds

also needs sound for the tv sets

thats actually a really good idea

@>>>>>HYPERDRIVE<<<<< I agree I am quite enthralled by a lot of the visuals, ideas and mechanics that turtle rock had in mind and is a shame that some of those are now lost to the past, I wish I knew how to mod because I would've tried my damned hardest to recreate a lot of the things I found fascinating in the beta, such as muzzleflashes and flashlights illuminating the weapon viewmodels...but I never even thought about the tv sets having sounds, a static sound coming from the tv's would fit into the world of l4d perfectly

@ChimiChamo (very festive) Thanks!! something that seems so little would add such another layer of depth to the game, if I was familiar with the modding scene I would've slapped that hl2 ladder sound effect into the game so fast