+100% damage bonus
+100% max secondary ammo on wearer
Flares explode on contact with players or surfaces
+50% blast radius (based of Detonator)
Disables primary weapon

How about::

50% Damage bonus
1 second stun on target
50% faster projectile speed
20% slower switch time
15% slower firing speed

Instead of being used in the classis flame-flare combo, this gun would do the opposite. Hit a scout or a rocket jumping soldier, then use the stun to close the gap with your flamethrower, giving pyro a much needed edge against the more mobile classes.

Originally posted by Agent of the Alpacalypse:

How about::

50% Damage bonus
1 second stun on target
50% faster projectile speed
20% slower switch time
15% slower firing speed

Instead of being used in the classis flame-flare combo, this gun would do the opposite. Hit a scout or a rocket jumping soldier, then use the stun to close the gap with your flamethrower, giving pyro a much needed edge against the more mobile classes.

One second's kinda short. How about the duration increases with distance, like the Sandman. Also, is the stun a "humiliation" stun or a moonshot stun?

Originally posted by SilverWind:

Originally posted by Agent of the Alpacalypse:

How about::

50% Damage bonus
1 second stun on target
50% faster projectile speed
20% slower switch time
15% slower firing speed

Instead of being used in the classis flame-flare combo, this gun would do the opposite. Hit a scout or a rocket jumping soldier, then use the stun to close the gap with your flamethrower, giving pyro a much needed edge against the more mobile classes.

One second's kinda short. How about the duration increases with distance, like the Sandman. Also, is the stun a "humiliation" stun or a moonshot stun?

Maybe you're right. How about a 70% movement speed penalty for 1.5 seconds?

Originally posted by Agent of the Alpacalypse:

Originally posted by SilverWind:

One second's kinda short. How about the duration increases with distance, like the Sandman. Also, is the stun a "humiliation" stun or a moonshot stun?

Maybe you're right. How about a 70% movement speed penalty for 1.5 seconds?

No, keep the stun, increase the duration.

launches explosive projectile comparable to the stock pipe grenades
+50% accuracy, projectile speed, and range

no extra damage against burning players
no random critical hits

Originally posted by SilverWind:

Originally posted by Agent of the Alpacalypse:

Maybe you're right. How about a 70% movement speed penalty for 1.5 seconds?

No, keep the stun, increase the duration.

Problem is if it's a full stun that scales with range, then it's just the sandman.

Originally posted by Mochi Sandvich:

+100% damage bonus
+100% max secondary ammo on wearer
Flares explode on contact with players or surfaces
+50% blast radius (based of Detonator)
Disables primary weapon

This is good, but as a con no afterburn or even direct burn on hit and add the primary weapon again

Originally posted by SilverWind:

Originally posted by Agent of the Alpacalypse:

Maybe you're right. How about a 70% movement speed penalty for 1.5 seconds?

No, keep the stun, increase the duration.

Stun is a broken game mechanic. Do the slow instead

How about a Mini-Loose Cannon?

Originally posted by Tesla:

How about a Mini-Loose Cannon?

- Flare does not explode on impact
+ 20% knockback
+/- The whole fuse charging thing

ooh, i like this one. i think it should be similar to the detonator in a sense, but also have a few different mechanics to it:

(positives in [/b]bold[/b], negatives in italics)

Press Alt-Fire to detonate all flares
+25% initial fire damage
Flares do not explode upon impact (with the ground or a player)
+25% damage to self
-66% afterburn damage penalty

i think this would make flare jumping a bit like grenade jumping + sticky jumping; you put down the flare, but then you have to detonate it yourself. i think this could also be used to put down traps; you put down a few flares, and then when the time is right, detonate them and then set a group of enemies on fire. does this sound a bit too crazy?

why not just a reskin of the flare gun?

because it would be kinda boring.

Just rocket jumping but with a flare gun is what i thought when I saw this.