XCOM 2
[WotC] Gotcha Again
Agrippa HX 3 Sep, 2017 @ 3:26am
Spider Grapple Crash
I just encountered the same issue as Adventure Kid. Interestingly, it works with the Skirmishers but crashes with the Spider suit.

Files:
  1. log file[pastebin.com]
  2. Google Drive[drive.google.com]

Expected Behaviour: Character grapples to puck.
Actual Behaviour: CTD

Steps to reproduce:
  1. select "Scalpel"
  2. attempt to grapple (puck does not appear to matter)
Last edited by Agrippa HX; 3 Sep, 2017 @ 3:26am
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Chaser324  [developer] 3 Sep, 2017 @ 7:50am 
Thanks for all of the info. I wouldn't be surprised if Gotcha does have issues related to grappling, but I'm having a tough time actually reproducing the crash even with your save file.

Have you verified that disabling Gotcha (or maybe even just disabling the grapple LOS indicators in its settings) gets rid of the crash?

Since this isn't easily reproducible, it also may mean we're getting into some sort of odd mod conflict or mod load order issue.
Last edited by Chaser324; 3 Sep, 2017 @ 8:37am
Agrippa HX 3 Sep, 2017 @ 10:56am 
Chaser, yes, if I disable Gotcha there's no crash. I'll look into it further as per your suggestions and report back.
Adventure Kid 3 Sep, 2017 @ 1:16pm 
Sorry for the late reply, but it makes sense if both the Spider Suit and the Wraith Suit use the same grapple ability, it causes the same crash. I did try with GA disabled and didn't get the crash.

Unfortunately Pastebin doesn't allow me to paste the full log file; I can email the whole folder to you or provide it via google docs or something if you'd like.
Last edited by Adventure Kid; 3 Sep, 2017 @ 1:17pm
Chaser324  [developer] 3 Sep, 2017 @ 1:23pm 
Originally posted by Adventure Kid:
Unfortunately Pastebin doesn't allow me to paste the full log file; I can email the whole folder to you or provide it via google docs or something if you'd like.

A save file and a list of other mods you're using will probably be more useful in this case. Agrippa's log file didn't reveal any obvious issue.

Gotcha Again does override a class related to the grapple puck, so I can totally see the move to War of the Chosen possibly causing some issues in there.
Agrippa HX 4 Sep, 2017 @ 12:10am 
I turned off indicators on grapple and now it's not crashing.
Chaser324  [developer] 4 Sep, 2017 @ 12:29am 
Thanks for the update. That does at least narrow down where this issue is.
Agrippa HX 4 Sep, 2017 @ 3:54am 
Actually, I turned the grapple indicators back on and it's still not crashing. I also disabled a couple other mods at the same time. So I'm not sure I've helped narrow anything. I'm wondering if it might be a mod conflict. I'm curious what Adventure Kid's mod list looks like.

If I get a crash with it again, I'll post another update.
Yup, I also got the crash twice, once with spider grapple, and another time with the skirmisher. Only mod installed is this one and show numeric health value.

EDIT: I can't reproduce the crash, sometimes happens, sometimes not.
Last edited by Sammarok-GoodGaming; 4 Sep, 2017 @ 2:40pm
Agrippa HX 4 Sep, 2017 @ 7:15pm 
XCOM has a lot of issues that can be corrected by saving and reloading. I used that feature many times to get around bugs, especially at launch when it was even buggier than it is now. I wonder if the crash is caused by XCOM itself getting into a broken state. That would explain why the bug isn't reproducible from a safe file and doesn't always manifest.

Next time one of us sees this bug, let's save and load to see if that clears it. If so, we have a work-around and likely explanation -- it'd also mean that there's probably nothing for Chaser to do about it.
Tristanian 3 Oct, 2017 @ 9:41am 
I can confirm that my game was also crashing randomly (with, thank God only a bunch of mods loaded). The crash would usually ocur (but not always) when using grapples and/or abilities like slash. Ever since I set bShowLOSIndicatorsForGrappleDestinations to False in the .ini file, I have had no issues.
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