Darkest Dungeon®

Darkest Dungeon®

The Librarian
Moon/Void Slime  [developer] 30 Oct, 2017 @ 5:18pm
Balance Discussion
This is a thread to talk about Balancing the Librarian. Does she need to be buffed, does she need to be nerfed, talk about it here!
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RndmPlb 31 Oct, 2017 @ 1:03pm 
Some guy said she has no downside, which is kinda true but on the other hand, she needs to be used at the right place in the right time to benefit the party properly. So I'm good with how she rolls right now. Idk, maybe you guys could balance her size ? *autistic screeching* sorry but it's tormenting me
Last edited by RndmPlb; 31 Oct, 2017 @ 1:03pm
Balgin Stondraeg  [developer] 31 Oct, 2017 @ 1:20pm 
You know, autistic people don't screech as much as internet memes would lead you to think.
RndmPlb 31 Oct, 2017 @ 1:33pm 
Of course they don't, but I gotta go with the flow. Btw I'm off to buy the new Iphone X
Moon/Void Slime  [developer] 31 Oct, 2017 @ 2:43pm 
She has one major weakness: she lacks damage and attack skills.
Balgin Stondraeg  [developer] 31 Oct, 2017 @ 2:50pm 
Another minor weakness is her fear of dogs which renders her incapable of going in parties with the Houndmaster (Werewolf & Good Girl restrictions will be coming in the not too distant future).
Gasleak Gaming 31 Oct, 2017 @ 3:55pm 
use clingy on a person with riposte. The shield doesnt protect against bleed/blight/stun
Balgin Stondraeg  [developer] 31 Oct, 2017 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Vaga:
use clingy on a person with riposte. The shield doesnt protect against bleed/blight/stun

The shield only protects against the physical damage. That's hard coded. Something we cannot change.
Gorilla Mode 31 Oct, 2017 @ 10:46pm 
I like her so far. She feels just good enough to take along in place of, say, Hood or Antiquarian, trading out the extra gold for extra EXP, making her good at raising up new hires. I didn't realize her EXP buff would go away if you camped! Oops, haha. Why does her Blight skill have a 0% chance though? Seems kind of useless in that respect, is that just a mistake in the skill?
Balgin Stondraeg  [developer] 1 Nov, 2017 @ 12:12am 
Not a mistake. She has one or more trinkets that can affect that blight chance. Plus, if you build the Atheneum that buffs it as well. It's not a core part of the skill but it's there in case you want to build her up and run her that way.
Gorilla Mode 1 Nov, 2017 @ 7:32pm 
Originally posted by Balgin Stondraeg:
Not a mistake. She has one or more trinkets that can affect that blight chance. Plus, if you build the Atheneum that buffs it as well. It's not a core part of the skill but it's there in case you want to build her up and run her that way.

Ah, ok. Hadn't seen that.
Two IQ Champion 1 Nov, 2017 @ 9:39pm 
I find it weird that people say she has no downsides.

She has no damage, her aoe blight skill stresses her out, her clingy skill causes the protector stress, you can't camp with her if you care about the exp.

She has some strengths but i wouldn't say she has no weaknesses, that's a lie. I would say shes balanced, although her blight skill chance is super low, but as the creator said thats intended.
Tegga21 2 Nov, 2017 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by KillBash:
I find it weird that people say she has no downsides.

She has no damage, her aoe blight skill stresses her out, her clingy skill causes the protector stress, you can't camp with her if you care about the exp.

She has some strengths but i wouldn't say she has no weaknesses, that's a lie. I would say shes balanced, although her blight skill chance is super low, but as the creator said thats intended.

The exp boost is too easily abused
Pyromania 3 Nov, 2017 @ 12:34am 
A riddle to solve is bugged, it's possible to get stress healed and stressed out at the same time
Two IQ Champion 3 Nov, 2017 @ 3:55am 
Originally posted by Tegga21:
Originally posted by KillBash:
I find it weird that people say she has no downsides.

She has no damage, her aoe blight skill stresses her out, her clingy skill causes the protector stress, you can't camp with her if you care about the exp.

She has some strengths but i wouldn't say she has no weaknesses, that's a lie. I would say shes balanced, although her blight skill chance is super low, but as the creator said thats intended.

The exp boost is too easily abused

Abused? How? The exp boost is completely intentional so i don't see how its being abused when that's the intent.
Moon/Void Slime  [developer] 3 Nov, 2017 @ 8:25am 
Most likely from "stalling". Stalling is something that I pretty much ignored when working on the exp boost. If I balanced it around stalling, then it would be like 1% exp gain. Right now my goal is an average of about ~100% (so double) exp from long doubles. Yes you can get more if you ignore camping, but that's your choice to do so. You are litterially giving up other buffs to gain a buff to exp. One or the other.

I know i could of made it so she would get an item you can then use for the exp buff (similar to the hood) but I didn't want to add an item into the game. The EXP is from her teaching you, which is why it comes from most of her support skills and only one offensive skill (know thy enemy).
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