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Trinity Blade of the Lotus - Skin & Alt Helm
Ascythian 7 Nov, 2017 @ 12:32pm
Body needs changes, Helmet needs changes.
I would say the body needs less grineer looking lights. If you look at Faven's Graxx series, there is a clear Grineer looking theme there which is why those look like that. As I mentioned with your Rhino helm, the elven looking symbols in your helmet won't be able to remain there as well as the ones on the body. The visor on your helmet looks too much like a visor, I doubt it would be able to stay looking like such.
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Ascythian 7 Nov, 2017 @ 12:45pm 
Id also say have a look at the Trinity Knightess by Tennogen veteran Rekkou currently pending below to see the kind of thing I would say DE are looking for.
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Lieric 7 Nov, 2017 @ 1:47pm 
I never have seen someone with so much disdain for (actually well done) detailing and embellishment. Are you sure that DE is looking for something else in the design, or are you? critique is extremely important, but you speak kinda like your taste is law. Weirder things, much weirder things have been accepted.

I'm just making posts in response because I've seen many items change for the worse because the creator believes in one person saying critique. He has to appeal to many people with these, not just us.

Just hold back a little on the "This wont be accepted" attitude, please
Lieric 7 Nov, 2017 @ 1:49pm 
I don't mean to be rude. Also, Mag has many skins with a visor look going on, and Trinity already does without a skin. This isn't the first.
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Cotton™ 7 Nov, 2017 @ 6:30pm 
I was going to say about the visor. Both Mag AND Trinity(Prime) have the same thing going on with them.
Ascythian 7 Nov, 2017 @ 9:00pm 
Originally posted by Lieric:
I never have seen someone with so much disdain for (actually well done) detailing and embellishment. Are you sure that DE is looking for something else in the design, or are you? critique is extremely important, but you speak kinda like your taste is law. Weirder things, much weirder things have been accepted.

I'm just making posts in response because I've seen many items change for the worse because the creator believes in one person saying critique. He has to appeal to many people with these, not just us.

Just hold back a little on the "This wont be accepted" attitude, please

I have seen other equally embellished Warframe's not make it. If you look at the various tennogen items you will see there is a pattern to what will be accepted. Don't get me wrong this is an awesome looking skin but it has to fit in with the Warframe universe, you cannot just put anything in. DE have a certain criteria.

If you want an item to get in, it cannot borrow too heavily from other influences. If you look at the Mag and Trinity style visors, you will see that they are not really visors. Maybe this visor is OK but it looks to me too mechanical and less organic which is something I am sure the art team for Warframe will notice.

I like this creator and have bought his Planetside 2 items before but like Planetside 2 it has to conform to the artstyle of the game. The dev's I know are certain to look at it through their eyes and say 'Does this fit?.
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Punished Jeremy 7 Nov, 2017 @ 10:11pm 
Originally posted by Meester:
Id also say have a look at the Trinity Knightess by Tennogen veteran Rekkou currently pending below to see the kind of thing I would say DE are looking for.
Like you know what DE is looking for
BeastBuster  [developer] 8 Nov, 2017 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by Meester:
Originally posted by Lieric:
I never have seen someone with so much disdain for (actually well done) detailing and embellishment. Are you sure that DE is looking for something else in the design, or are you? critique is extremely important, but you speak kinda like your taste is law. Weirder things, much weirder things have been accepted.

I'm just making posts in response because I've seen many items change for the worse because the creator believes in one person saying critique. He has to appeal to many people with these, not just us.

Just hold back a little on the "This wont be accepted" attitude, please

I have seen other equally embellished Warframe's not make it. If you look at the various tennogen items you will see there is a pattern to what will be accepted. Don't get me wrong this is an awesome looking skin but it has to fit in with the Warframe universe, you cannot just put anything in. DE have a certain criteria.

If you want an item to get in, it cannot borrow too heavily from other influences. If you look at the Mag and Trinity style visors, you will see that they are not really visors. Maybe this visor is OK but it looks to me too mechanical and less organic which is something I am sure the art team for Warframe will notice.

I like this creator and have bought his Planetside 2 items before but like Planetside 2 it has to conform to the artstyle of the game. The dev's I know are certain to look at it through their eyes and say 'Does this fit?.

I have addressed some of what you said in another comment, so I won't rehash it here. Personally, I don't really see how Trinity Prime's helmet is all that organic, especially her visor. Trinity seems to have a more "techy" theme overall than a lot of the other frames which is something I tried to incorporate here.

I don't want to seem dismissive, and I want you to know that I truly appreciate your candor in your critiques. And who knows, you could certainly be proven right in the end. I have gone to great lengths to make sure my detailing/line work matches the Warframe aesthetic, but DE obviously have the final say.

Also, I think its really cool you recognized me from my work on Planetside! I didn't think people knew who I was haha. Thanks for your support!
Ascythian 8 Nov, 2017 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by Delta:
Like you know what DE is looking for

Well DE do post feedback and creators mention what the feedback is sometimes on the Warframe forums.


Originally posted by BeastBuster:

Also, I think its really cool you recognized me from my work on Planetside! I didn't think people knew who I was haha. Thanks for your support!

Vanu 4 lyfe!

But yeah I try and invoke constructive feedback. If I was to make a comparison between your Oberon skin and the deluxe skin by DE, the Feyarch, your one looks too much like a suit of armour [a problem I see with Rhino and Oberon]. The Feyarch may be a 'fantasy' looking skin but it looks like it IS the Warframe. A Warframe isn't really something that is worn, if you get my drift. This Trinity skin in my opinion is 'almost there', I think the helmet is the one that looks too much like a helmet instead of a head imo
Last edited by Ascythian; 8 Nov, 2017 @ 7:09am
Punished Jeremy 8 Nov, 2017 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by Meester:
Originally posted by Delta:
Like you know what DE is looking for

Well DE do post feedback and creators mention what the feedback is sometimes on the Warframe forums.
Agreed
,but they post and accept stuff that completely contradicts earlier submissions
Do you think the first tennogen skins would be accepted today? Of course not
I actually like this setup as is. Trinity primes helmet looks like poo poo
eggsandwich 8 Nov, 2017 @ 11:44pm 
Stop hating on this design. Its perfect. Omfg
release a pic of dif lights and 100% wont look grineer even tho imo it doesnt
Wolfeinth 9 Nov, 2017 @ 10:59am 
Beautifull!!, but i think if y mage some changes, to make body more... different than original, ill be great, if not...still beautifull!!!! LOVE THIS TRINI HELM!!! xD
Stealthephant 9 Nov, 2017 @ 4:20pm 
I like it, I've wanted something less.. well. With less bits and pieces sticking out of Trinity for awhile, though it doesn't help that I've been using the Trinity Prime Skin at that.

As for it needing to change or stick to theme, I mean. Even if a skin went entirely against the frame's previous visual aesthetic, isn't changing the aesthetic the point of the exercise? Not that this frame is, Trinity's always been kind've techy, and i'd argue that her Trinity Prime helmet is definitely a visor. I don't think this necessarily goes against Warframe's overall aesthetic.

Also, I mean. IF we start dropping things from contention for looking too different I'm going to have a much harder time playing Fashionfram- Warframe. Yes.
ShatteredPumpkin 10 Nov, 2017 @ 11:09pm 
perfect trinity skin dude dont hate it i would like this ingame
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