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cyan 11 Nov, 2017 @ 7:32am
Frozen Pond
As much as I love this map, I am expressing some concern as to how 2Fort's core mechanics will work out. The images show the pond/sewer system completely frozen over. Now, don't get me wrong, this is a very creative change that adds alot to the map's atmosphere, but if there is emprty space under the bridge that is not covered by water, short range classes (more specifically the pyro) would have a clear advantage over sewer-goers. The water was put there to prevent the W+M1 strategy to come into effect. Let me know what y'all think, and let's talk about it.
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TimeBomb! 11 Nov, 2017 @ 9:46am 
not all of it is frozen
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Syrix 11 Nov, 2017 @ 11:22am 
I never really liked that people feel the need to complain about "W+M1" pyros. Burning things is what pyro was originally intended to do! I find it really silly to complain about a class doing it's main thing.
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..::GooBall60  [developer] 11 Nov, 2017 @ 11:45am 
Not every map has to have water in order to counter the Pyros doing what they're supposed to do.
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Krispybitsy 11 Nov, 2017 @ 3:32pm 
Perhaps add a first aid kit in the pond if needed?
#4
MartyrSaint 11 Nov, 2017 @ 5:16pm 
I see no problem with having it all iced over. Not ever map has water n' junk and people manage just fine.
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..::GooBall60  [developer] 11 Nov, 2017 @ 9:20pm 
I was also thinking of adding maybe 2 small health packs on either side of the frozen pond.
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Krispybitsy 11 Nov, 2017 @ 11:00pm 
Just played on the server and a group of engies made lvl 3 sentries in the pond shooting at the balcony might want to make it a non sentry area?
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cyan 12 Nov, 2017 @ 8:34am 
Hi GooBall,

First off, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to make this map. The TF2 community has always impressed me, and thanks to people like you, this game has become one of the best FPS games ever made. I think adding health packs would fix all of the issues our hypothetical pond would have. On a side note, are there any servers that run this map? I'd love to give it a go, but still havn't found any community servers that use it.

Congrats on 5,000 subs,

The Aristeian
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..::GooBall60  [developer] 12 Nov, 2017 @ 9:53am 
@The Aristeian Thank you for your well thought out input on this map. And yes, I am currently running a 24/7 Snowfort server here: 173.234.24.108
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cyan 12 Nov, 2017 @ 10:22am 
I stand corrected. The ice works perfectly. Hats off to GooBall...I guess.
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cyan 12 Nov, 2017 @ 10:25am 
The sliding prevents 5 or 6 pyros from double teaming you, and the sentry nests are easily distoyed (But still provides support for the other classes). I'd go as far as to say that the ice improves the map substantally. So...good job on that one.

Last edited by cyan; 12 Nov, 2017 @ 5:54pm
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TheDerpyPadawan 13 Nov, 2017 @ 11:22am 
It's so ice to see you GooBall... get it... cause the ice and stuff...
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cyan 13 Nov, 2017 @ 5:59pm 
I started a discussion for bad ice puns if anyone's interested. (Who am I kidding? Y'all are all uphobic at the idea.)
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~NyaTaki~ 14 Nov, 2017 @ 8:35am 
I'd suggest either adding a health or ammo kit on the middle of the ice or just give the water a custom texture that looks more white w/ snowflakes in or something
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Birds Onestone 15 Nov, 2017 @ 3:06am 
If it's frozen, the sewer is useless....
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