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A.D.O Vanilla Creatures Remap Final Update
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HushedDispatch 5 Jan, 2018 @ 11:04pm
Ideas/Propositions
Hello Mitko,

So as I mentioned before I too wanted to create a mod similar to this but my computer just couldn't handle it. For my research I have found diagrams relating the real sizes of these dinosaurs to your average height human. i am just going to go down the list with my notes as to what I had planned.
For the balancing of stats I will leave that up to you since you have already adjusted some things
For the adjustment of size I will either include a diagram or a percentage. On the diagram we will use the upper size estimate every time. I just used the human model in the dev kit as an "average human".
For the adjustment of speed I am using the following mathematical theory.
-The average human walking speed is 3.1 mph or about 5 kph. In game the base walking speed for humans is at 492.8. Since 5 is easier to work with we will stick to kph. So 492.8 divided by 5 gets us 98.56 rounding up to 99. 99 in game speed walking speed is the equivalent to 1 kph of real life walking speed.
For the most part I will not adjust walking speeds.
-The average human running speed is 20 kph. So we do 892 divided by 20 which gets us 44.6 rounded up to 45. So 45 in game running speed is equal to 20 kph real life running speed.



Achatina (too big in game)
Size - Shrink 25%


Allosaur (too big in game)
Size - http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/a/allosaurus-size.jpg
The maximum speed of an allo is 30-56 kph with a median of 43kph.
So running speed would be 43*45 = 1,935 base sprinting speed.


Ammonite (too small in game)
Size - https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/8b/0a/838b0a4ce49ad520a358b0527e950ba3.jpg


Ankylosaurus (too small in game)
Size - https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/276219338505581108/0E4A254A6711F9B53C9C22D3FEEF8841598064DF/
Running speed : 9kph or 405 base sprinting speed


Argentavis (too big in game)
Size - http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/0/argentavis-vs-quetzalcoatlus-vs-meganeura.jpg


Arthropluera (too big in game)
Size - http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/a/arthropleura-size.jpg
Running speed : 8kph or 360 base sprinting speed


Baryonyx (slightly too big in game)
Size - http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/b/baryonyx-size.jpg


Basilosaurus (too small in game)
Size - http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/b/basilosaurus-size.jpg


Beelzebufo (Way too big in game)
Size - https://steemit-production-imageproxy-thumbnail.s3.amazonaws.com/U5drySKzg9MogeQjnvaFFtUmV4gorHe_1680x8400
Speed - 20kph or 900 base sprinting speed
-Remove ability to ride.
-Add ability to carry on shoulder.


Bronto....Rename to scientific name Brachiosaurus (too small in game)
Size -
http://shipwrektyt.com/uploads/monthly_2016_02/f1ff52bc4d61ee2379590763b5ecbc09.jpg.01fa01c8ff306d604ecc37181b345d40.jpg
Speed - 16 kph or 720 base sprinting speed


Carbonemys (too big in game)
size - https://i.pinimg.com/564x/bf/2f/a0/bf2fa0516dca3c36020d48cb5585d41a--prehistoric-dinosaurs.jpg
speed - 10kph or 450 base sprinting speed
-Remove ability to ride


Carnotaurus (slightly too big in game)
size - https://ark.gamepedia.com/File:Carnotaurus-size.jpg
speed - 56 kph or 2520 base sprinting speed


Chalicotherium (too big in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/c/chalicotherium-size.jpg


Compy...rename to Compsognathus (size is about right in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/c/compsognathus-size.jpg
Speed - 64 kph or 2880 base sprinting speed


Daeodon
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/c/compsognathus-size.jpg
Speed - 48 kph or 2160 base sprinting speed


Dilophosaurus (too small in game)
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ef/5f/c3/ef5fc33219d99e4bd39f1f576e3323b9--prehistoric-animals.jpg
speed - 32 kph or 1440 base sprinting speed
-make rideable


Dimetrodon (too small in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/d/dimetrodon-size.jpg


Dimorphodon
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ind9VX4eYtI/U8SjKnnDj1I/AAAAAAAAEZk/wW8ooDtIqF0/s1600/dimorphodon-size.jpg


Diplodaucus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/d/diplodocus-size.jpg
Speed - 12 kph or 540 sprinting speed


Dire Bear - Rename to scientific name Arctodus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/a/arctodus-size.jpg
Speed - 50 kph or 2250 sprinting speed


Dire Wolf - Rename to Canis Dirus (too large in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/c/canis-dirus-dire-wolf-size.jpg
Speed - 64 kph or 2880 sprinting speed
-Remove ability to ride


Doedicurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/d/doedicurus-size.jpg
Speed - 32 kph or 1440 sprinting speed


Dunkleosteus...rename Dunkleosteus Terelli(too small in game)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/09/1b/49091b6333d3f25d86a6f228faf33750.jpg


Euryptid...rename Eurypterus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/0/large-eurypterid-size-comparison.jpg


Equus
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/96/25/13/962513134fcdf962d8b37c27e2d725da--mammals-prehistoric.jpg
speed - 43 kph or 1935 sprinting speed


Gallimimus (too small in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/g/gallimimus-size.jpg
Speed - 80 kph or 3600 sprinting speed


Gigantosaurs (too big in game)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/b7/0b/02b70bd913dd8a279c805c368956fe11.jpg
speed - 49 kph or 2205 sprinting speed


Gigantopithecus (too small in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/g/gigantopithecus-size.jpg
speed - 32 kph or 1440 sprinting speed


Hesperornis
https://i.imgur.com/DRsjscT.jpg


Hyaenodon...Rename to Hyaenodon Gigas
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/h/hyaenodon-size.jpg
Speed - 40 kph or 1800 sprinting speed


Ichthy...rename to Icthyosaurus (too big in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/i/ichthyosaurus-size.jpg


Iguanodon
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/i/iguanodon-size.jpg
Speed - 32 kph or 1440 sprinting speed


Kaprosuchus (too big in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/k/kaprosuchus-size.jpg
speed - 32 kph or 1440 sprinting speed
-remove ability to ride


Kentrosaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/k/kentrosaurus-size.jpg
speed - 9 kph or 405 sprinting speed


Leedsichthys
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/l/leedsichthys-size.jpg
-Remove targetting of boats in water


Leopleurodon... rename to Leopleurodon Ferox
https://www.noteboardapp.com/users/images/207901_ac614a0d7830313a1ca4eebbccb488fe.jpg


Lystrosaurus (too small in game)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/28/b0/cf28b0f2492c05d6dd3b6a776a871c07.jpg


Mammoth...rename to Mammuthus Columbi
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/m/mammuthus-columbi-columbian-mammoth-size.jpg
Speed - 42 Kph or 1890 sprinting speed
-add a platform saddle


Megalania (too big in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/v/varanus-priscus-megalania-size.jpg
Speed - 19 kph or 855 sprinting speed
-remove ability to ride


Megaloceros...rename Megaloceros Giganteus (too small in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/m/megaloceros-giganteus-irish-elk-size.jpg
Speed - 70 kph or 3150 sprinting speed


Megalodon (too small in game)
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8b/14/0c/8b140c6b7e31e4838286207c8086b0c1.jpg


Megalosaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/m/megalosaurus-size.jpg
Speed - 48 kph or 2160 sprinting speed


Megatherium
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/m/megatherium-size.jpg


Mosasaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/m/mosasaurus-size.jpg


Moschops (too small in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/m/moschops-size.jpg


Oviraptor
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/77/df/af77df088ede7e589a0c21e113801a0e.jpg
Speed - 69 kph or 3105 sprinting speed


Pachy...rename Pachycephalosaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/p/pachycephalosaurus-size.jpg
Speed - 16 kph or 720 sprinting speed
-add charge attack


Pachyrhiosaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/p/pachyrhinosaurus-size.jpg
Speed - 38 kph or 1710 sprinting speed
-add charge attack


Paracer...rename to Paraceratherium
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/p/paraceratherium-size.jpg


Parasaur...rename to Parasaurolophus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/p/parasaurolophus-size.jpg
Speed - 40 kph or 1800 sprinting speed


Phiomia (too small in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/p/phiomia-size.jpg


Plesiosaur...rename to Elasmosaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/e/elasmosaurus-size.jpg


Procoptodon (too big in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/p/procoptodon-size.jpg
Speed - 40 kph or 1800 sprinting speed
-remove ability to ride


Pteranodon
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/dc/cd/67dccdb5fb389205c09e3df0869bec97.jpg


Raptor ... Rename to Utahraptor
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d0/e9/ec/d0e9ec7da9cea6d4bfca18399dfeb653--prehistoric-animals-jurassic-park.jpg
Speed - 32 kph or 1440 sprinting speed


Rex ... Rename to Tyrannosaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/t/tyrannosaurus-size.jpg
Speed - 19 kph or 855 sprinting speed


Sabertooth ... Rename to Smilodon
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/s/smilodon-size.jpg
Speed - 60 kph or 2700 sprinting speed


Sarco ... Rename to Sarcosuchus
https://ourplnt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/sarcosuchus-size.jpg
Speed - 35 kph or 1575 sprinting speed


Spino ... Rename to Spinosaurus
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/86/ec/af86ec210f8da853b1086c51660bb1bb.jpg
Speed - 19 kph or 855 sprinting speed


Stego ... Rename to Stegosaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/s/stegosaurus-size.jpg
Speed - 7 kph or 315 sprinting speed


Tapejara ... Rename to Tupandactylus Imperator
http://shipwrektyt.com/uploads/monthly_2016_01/tupandactylus-size.jpg.441abc5a1a4921596cf982c8c96b3a92.jpg


Terror Bird ... Rename to Brontornis
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/b/brontornis-size.jpg
Speed - 45 kph or 2025 sprinting speed


Therizino ... Rename to therizinosaurus
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/a1/bd/dda1bde06f42b634dd0cf65d95465655.jpg
Speed - 28 kph or 1280 sprinting speed


Thylacoleo ... Rename to Thylacoleo Giganteus
Though this is not a real creature I feel like it would be better to keep it as is than to shrink it to its real life counterpart the Thylacoleo Carnifex. http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/t/thylacoleo-size.jpg


Titanoboa (too small in game)
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/t/titanoboa-size.jpg
Speed - 3 kph or 135 sprinting speed


Titanosaur ... Rename to Argentinosaurus
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/a/argentinosaurus-size.jpg
Speed - 10 kph or 450 sprinting speed


Trike ... rename to Triceratops
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/t/triceratops-size.jpg
Speed - 32 kph or 1440 sprinting speed
-Add charge attack


Wooly Rhino ... rename to Coelodonta
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/t/triceratops-size.jpg
speed - 50 kph or 2250 sprinting speed
-Add charge attack


Yutyrannus ... rename to Yutyrannus Huali
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/Y/yutyrannus-size.jpg
speed - 49 kph or 2205 sprinting speed
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mitko_p81  [developer] 7 Jan, 2018 @ 12:49am 
Your post is interesting, but some thinks i can't do from it. Renaming is easy, but speed adjustments of some creature will be very unrealistic with that stats wich you give here. i will give you a example from my other mod - Dodorex walk speed is 1100 and is fastest than you when carry tek costume and fly with super speed. The other issue is that animations will not answeer of this speeds....Understand that we haven't a running speed stats, we have only walk speed...
#1
HushedDispatch 7 Jan, 2018 @ 1:12am 
Oh I see, I didn't know we were limitted to adjusting only walking speed. I understand now.
#2
†RoroBlacK† 24 Jan, 2018 @ 2:32pm 
nice idea
#3
†RoroBlacK† 24 Jan, 2018 @ 2:33pm 
but brontosaurus is equal to apatosaurus, size is like vanilla bronto with comand changesize .6 or .7
#4
jcorb77 2 Feb, 2018 @ 1:19pm 
Yeah there was no such thing as a Bronto. It was an Apatosaurus. Brachiosaurus had a ridge on his head. and front legs where larger than back

Here is the size comparison:
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/e/eobrontosaurus-size.jpg
#5
jcorb77 2 Feb, 2018 @ 1:29pm 
Also Pteranodons really weren't big enough to carry a rider. If you made them smaller they really should be made unridable.
#6
WinterWisteria 25 Feb, 2018 @ 11:48pm 
Would it be possible to give the Scorpions two attacks?
One for the claws and then a torpor dealing one for it's tail attack?
That way one could choose between damage or torp.
#7
Max 28 Feb, 2018 @ 8:03am 
All I have to say is keep this as plain as possible, as in, just changing size's to appropriate levels and or other similar mellow tweaks.

It'd be great to finally have a down to earth dino mod without any whacky colors, abilities, powers, speeds, etc...

Cheers!
#8
mitko_p81  [developer] 28 Feb, 2018 @ 11:00am 
@WinterWendigo i will see what i can do for your request. Abouth Ptero resizing i don't think to resize them, because of the ride abillities, Bronto if i remember well now is called Apatosaurus at my mod?
#9
WinterWisteria 28 Feb, 2018 @ 11:34am 
Thank you kindly for giving it a shot ^^
#10
WinterWisteria 28 Feb, 2018 @ 11:35am 
OH! My girlfriend and I were playing with your mod and we noticed the Dilos are floating above the ground, that may be something to look at if you haven't already? ^^
#11
mitko_p81  [developer] 7 Mar, 2018 @ 9:57am 
The floathing dilo's bug is fixed. Did you find some other bugs?
#12
WinterWisteria 7 Mar, 2018 @ 5:59pm 
That was all I noticed at the time but I'll let you know if we do :)
Thank you!
#13
aquistorm 20 Mar, 2022 @ 6:22am 
If you are aiming for semi realistic dinos. I would say find a way to remove the frill and venom spit from the dilo and make the raptors, Utahraptor, velociraptor have feathers like deinonychus, microraptor and troodon does.
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