yeah. her default model is..well it is what it is.

Originally posted by Faven:

yeah. her default model is..well it is what it is.

yeaa, with all things said however still gonna get her and chroma when i can, i cant get enough of your skins. mainly cause grineer fan boy and honestly your skins are kick ass, my current favs are chroma, harrow and mesa

As somebody that actually likes the default model, all I think that his one is missing is some of the warpaint we saw on Atlas and Vauban. Maybe some 'speed streaks' on the chest, shoulders or back as if they were done with just the fingers of a hand, if only to tie it back to the older skins... While I love the new Graxx skins, and I really enjoy the direction you've been going in for the materials (also the secondary colour bleed into the metallic sounds interesting) they do look a little too clean for the original theme ^^

Originally posted by Faven:

yeah. her default model is..well it is what it is.

Its more than just that. There are some good tennogen skins for her, so it's doable. I think its more a conflict of theme. To me, grineer are all about rounded and tubular designs with heavy industrial influence while Zephyr is a much sharper and angular design. The Grineer are heavy, Zephyr is not.

While Zephyr is my favorite and I've been a fan of the Graxx series up until now, I just can't get into this particular Graxx version.

What's worse is that I can't clearly see where to go from here that would change that opinion. I have a hunch there could be a different arrangment of metal, cloth and leather materials that would speak to me better. Perhaps there could be more steam venting or mini-jet decorations to support her theme. But I don't have the artistic chops to give you any better critique.

@Cam There's nothing Faven can do about it, as IIRC Tennogen authors don't get the tools needed to change the shape of the body model, only DE does. Which is why only the Deluxe Skins change the model shape.

each graxx skin is different, its never been an absolute true grineer facsimile.

It's always been about taking the shapes of X frame and themeing it in a mix of grineer/tenno. Sometimes it leans more heavily towards one of them.

With wobbly/melted candle looking frames like zephyr/chroma keeping it true to the bulbous grineer style becomes impossible, so you play the cards you're dealt.

Detail/texture/overall aestethic they are all similar, shape wise not so much.

Compare say, mag with atlas and they tell two very different stories.

The given pictures just feel muddy to me aside from any other factors.

I'm honestly not bothered by how close she is to 'true grineer'. As for the body shape, well that can be worked with, the Hagoromo set feels much softer than this one, And the Skeiron set very sharp and rigid and the colour bleed and shine is a nice feature.

I guess considering that those two hit my preferences so well, the difficult colouring and heavy pitting on the texture may be what's throwing me off.

I'm quite fond of the Nova and Frost Graxx and I use the disconnect Syndana on Valkyr pretty much to the exclusion of any other choice. I'm a fan of the gritty look on other skins like the Atlas, Vauban for instance but this case might just come down me not liking it on Zephyr.

I agree the helmet is gorgeous. I wish the default model could lose those wings though.

I've always felt your skins represent what happens when a tenno has to use grineer materials to salvage old warframes. A splendid mix of old tenno designs with grineer materials used to replace the tenno tech.

YEAH , we need a new body model

Well, there's the supposed deluxe skin someone is working on as a passion project on their own time. That'll be done Soon(super awesome delux tm).

I guess we'll see if Zephyr prime is next like I'd hoped before the lazy rework.

Probably old but, noone really cares about her body, the graxx skins were always great, default bodies or not the graxx skins never fail to impress me.

Nope, The helmet makes her look like a Parakeet too

It's probably the point, it looks cool.

I agree, the helmet is cool, not the default skin.