Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

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RivtalDM  [developer] 19 Mar, 2018 @ 9:05pm
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Hailey 25 Mar, 2018 @ 9:10am 
Certain countries in Africa and the Middle East are not truly "nations", as they were created out of colonialism. Many nations of the world are supernational, such as the Arabs, and some are intranational, such as the Igbos of Nigeria. I think it would be great if you were able to stage revolts in a certain nation, such as the Zulu revolts and the Arab revolt, rather than just superficial states created by colonial powers. I think it would make this mod more realistic.
RivtalDM  [developer] 25 Mar, 2018 @ 11:20am 
This is one of the most complicated questions the mod faces because while we know now how things did play out historically there are no guarantees in 1936 that things would have played out as they did particualrly in Africa and the Levant (a fact that the ongoing conflict in Syria and the relatively recent division of the Sudan highlight). If the mod were made ten years from now, people might well have a far different view of what would be the "natural expectaiton" given the benefit of further developments. I'll use two different examples I'm currently resarching:

Syria
In 1936 the French Mandate was divided into administrative districts based on religious and ethnic minorities. Lebanon was 'created' as a Christain enclave while there was an Alawite State around Latakia and the Jabal al-Druze state in the south. If decisions had been made differently by the French government during the treaty process in late 1936, a greater Syria ruled from Damascas may never have existed.

Cameroon
An example of divisions created by Europeans carving up land, large numbers of ethnic Cameroon Highlanders lie in the British mandate which we display as Nigeria; realistically the map needs a few more states which may or may not end up as part of Cameroon. Although the Southern Cameroons portion of the British mandate decided by referendum in 1961 to join Cameroon there is now a movement advocating secession so where those lines should ultimately fall is questionable.

In summary, these questions are complex and often there are not definitive answers. Our goal at this point is to go over things simply the first time (mostly putting in histrocial nations without redrawing too many states) and then dedicate focus to each individual area in turn to highlight more of these unexplored possibilities of history both with regards to smaller factions and wider ethnic groups divided by Europeans.
Rubbish 30 Jan, 2019 @ 4:02pm 
Macedonia's place in Bulgaria is kinda strange. The IMRO claimed parts of Bulgaria and Greece which is part of the reason Bulgaria ended up destroying them. Are there plans to add those states as claims and expand that part of the focus to make it more accurate to how the IMRO would have operated?

For example supporting the IMRO could result in releasing the Bulgarian territory to the state and starting the revolution in Yugoslavia's territory, making Macedonia a puppet. You could then use their claim/core on Greece to start a revolution in order to get that territory indirectly through puppet. I think this would have to be a Communist only feature however as the Communist Bulgarian government was the only that ever acknowledged a Macedonian identity at all. I don't know if you are planning to change the DLC focus nations at all but if you were Yugoslavia supporting an independent Macedonia might be more accurate, as Tito was the guy who first game them any sort of recognition in the Balkans.

I think that your tree has a really cool potential to accurately represent that conflict in a pretty respectful way, which isn't really common in this community. Regardless, thanks for making this mod. Definitely gonna be my new R56 for default start date.
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Kakaokka_ 6 Apr, 2019 @ 12:02pm 
- Hunan government (puppet of ROC) lead by He Jian [en.m.wikipedia.org].
- Colorized photos (You can colorize them here: http://demos.algorithmia.com/colorize-photos)
- Yugoslav partisan forces in WWII, Užice Republic [en.wikipedia.org].
- Lokot Autonomy [en.m.wikipedia.org]
- Monaco, San Marino, Free city of Danzig, Liechtenstein, Vatican City and more european microstates.
- A separate focus tree for Sinkiang:
Pro-Soviet Diplomacy <-<!>-> The Ili Rebellion[en.wikipedia.org]
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deet0109 17 Aug, 2019 @ 10:03am 
- The East Hebei Autonomous Govt. should be added too
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