Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

OWB - Enclave Reborn
onesarcher 6 Sep, 2019 @ 4:27pm
Form a new Enclave or the old United States? (I like Nation Reborn better)
I believe the Judgement of this problem from a moral standpoint is that the United States, however corrupt and bloated nation it was. Was still the heartland, and when it fell. The American Dream fell with it. And the wasteland was truly lost forever. Or so it seemed, until a man, firm as Granite took the oath, one hand raised, the other on the holy bible. Swearing his sole allegiance to America, not to the NCR, the Legion, nor the Brotherhood Hardliners with stolen Government Property. It was to the people who made the nation great. It was the hearts of the people to leave a life they always had known and settle the Americas, it was the people who fought off the shackles of Tyranny for five hundred years. Great scientists Innovated the world with technology. It was blessed men and women. Just like you and me. God bless America. For America makes us Free.
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onesarcher 6 Sep, 2019 @ 4:29pm 
Post your thoughts about this moral dillemma below. We'd like to hear what you think.:steamhappy:
SRPA-Sentinel 8 Sep, 2019 @ 8:59pm 
I never blamed America entirely for the way the world is in Fallout. To me, it was the government that caused the problems. The politicians the businessmen, the Generals, the Elite that ran the country from the shadows. The American people were just people trying to live there lives, people who wanted the American dream. Even though Bethesda has always painted the American people as being paranoid anti-communist patriots who's attitudes were more disturbing then hilarious, I've always believed that most Americans (most of the 400 million of them anyway) just wanted to live in peace, and were the victims of not only a government that no longer cared for them or the constitution, but of a constant ideology war that had descended into straight up Mcarthysim, were if you even complained a little bit about the government you would be declared a communist. The American people were not at fault, the American Dream and constitution were not at fault.

The wasteland is a horrible place, full of horrible and disturbing people. The people are besieged on all sides. A man with delusions of grandeur in a city of sin, a nation that was trying to swallow up the entire wasteland, former members of the US Military who had abandoned their oath to protect the American people to complete some grand mission to collect all technology (I REALLY hate the BOS) and a slaving army hellbent on taking the entirety of the West Coast. And even though the base mod allows you to take control of a nation and fight any of these people, it never felt right. I was fighting a only to become the villain That's why i love this mod. This mode does something i always wanted in the Fallout universe, a chance to bring America back to life. A chance to retake everything it had lost, all the while crushing those that would seek to harm it's people. I will always take the reform path, I will always take the path of A Nation Reborn and reform America, not just because i can, but because it's what the wasteland needs.
Deplorable 9 May, 2021 @ 11:20am 
The American Dream never truly died out. As long as there are those who are willing to stand up to tyranny and the Raiders. The American Dream lives on.

As for the Enclave. We are the only ones to remember the Good old days. The days before the bombs. Before the Radiation nightmare that has befallen on our Country. The days where EVERY American felt safe at night. Unlike our Purists Brethren. The wasteland doesn't need to be purified, nor does it deserve it.

If the Enclave (And by extension America) to continue on ward, we must change as well. We must learn too work with our fellow Americans, despite there origins. Just as the Great Ronald Regain once said "We must realize that no arsenal is greater then the power of free man and women."
Jumpstartgaming 3 Jun, 2021 @ 12:58pm 
Americans will always fight for freedom. From The Isles of Hawaii to the Fields of Maine America will be reborn. This is why I love the Reformer path. Americans won't stop there. They will reform Canada and Mexico. Until the entire America's are free from tyranny. Then we will move to liberate the rest of the world. As long as there is injustice or tyranny Americans will be there to fight it.
jjj2000 11 Jun, 2021 @ 8:16am 
Nation Reborn has better buffs, but Enclave Reborn deffinently has a more realistic feel. You aren't going to build a democratic and modern nation out of illiterate tribes. Enclave Reborn is a lot more realistic, where the Enclave would have to be more focused on rebuilding infrastructure and industry and literacy then on rebuilding democracy.
Jumpstartgaming 11 Jun, 2021 @ 9:05am 
I beg to differ. In OWB there is actually a great number of civilized or raider nations. These are far from trials and the trials that are there will have American culture forcefully reintroduced. Democracy comes first America Comes first
Jumpstartgaming 11 Jun, 2021 @ 9:06am 
Freedom is the Sovereign right of Every American
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