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Awakening of the Rebellion 2.11.9: Jump To Hyperspace
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DragonBoyLex 18 Nov, 2024 @ 12:48am
Constant freezing on galactic mode
I'm not sure how common this is for everyone else, or how widespread it is but I've found that I am constantly seeing freezes during galactic mode, I'm not sure if the recent patch has anything to do with it but it seems much worse than it used to be.

I've only tested this while playing Rebels and only on this mod so I don't know if other factions are similarly affected yet but there seems to be a bug that causes the game to just stop, no crash to desktop but refuses to do anything and I have to force close the game to restart.

After a *lot* of testing, as in about 8 new playthroughs all running to see how often it would occur, if anything specific would cause it and what I could potentially do to fix it, I've found it seems to be a random bug with saves, they're not corrupted but at some point the game crashes, so you load a previous save, then strangely it seems to 'bring' that crash forward to straight after your save. No matter what you do or which save is loaded, after so many ingame ticks, it will freeze.

After much hair pulling I've managed to find a irritating solution that at least lets me keep my saves and play the game. If I load one of these saves, wait a few seconds for the game to tick, then save again *just* before it will freeze then load *that* save, the game seems to be happy again and work, for a short while at least. While doing this method means I'm saving almost every 2 mins, and spending about 5 mins closing and reopening the game, it has at least allowed me to get through a playthrough.

Unfortunately I have no idea what is actually causing this, The fact the freeze seems to appear after all my saves, but then disappear if i save again makes me think it's either a weird base game bug or a AI/Scripting bug. I know eaw is prone to instability but lately it seems insane, so if anyone else is having these issues, I hope this helps, if you're willing to be more than a little patient.
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DragonBoyLex 18 Nov, 2024 @ 6:40am 
I've just done a quick run through as Empire and can confirm the same issue persists. Generally it seems to start around week 100 and get worse from there but can happen earlier.
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Necromancer 18 Nov, 2024 @ 3:07pm 
I pray someone fixes this one day. Been suffering from it for a while now
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Uncle Deaf 20 Nov, 2024 @ 5:55am 
It isn't just this mod, happens on other mods, usually when I start map scrolling after 100 weeks. yep
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molchåmor 26 Nov, 2024 @ 3:41pm 
AI vs AI battle freezing the game ? There are many posts about this, check if a battle swords icon is flashing on the map when freeze occurs and try to prevent that battle from happening.
Last edited by molchåmor; 26 Nov, 2024 @ 3:41pm
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DragonBoyLex 28 Nov, 2024 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by molchåmor:
AI vs AI battle freezing the game ? There are many posts about this, check if a battle swords icon is flashing on the map when freeze occurs and try to prevent that battle from happening.


I'm not sure, I have seen that this is an ongoing issue but its hard to tell if that's whats happening when the games completely frozen. If it is then for me it happens rather weirdly considering I can run the game fine, crash then reload any of my old saves and they will start freezing too, even though I'd past that point on a previous run.

At this point I don't think its possible for me to know if its this bug without taking screenshots of the galaxy map right before it freezes then cobbling them together so i can see whats happening everywhere when it stops. That's just a bit of a time waste to do though so I haven't bothered yet.
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molchåmor 28 Nov, 2024 @ 4:16pm 
If it is the base-game AIvsAI battle "freeze", the GC map is not frozen you can scroll it. Just not build anything and all ships stop move and so does the tick timer so it acts more like "game is paused". Green/Red Swords icon will flash on the planet where the endless loop battle occurs. If the map is really frozen I have no clue, never heard that one before :(
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DragonBoyLex 29 Nov, 2024 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by molchåmor:
If it is the base-game AIvsAI battle "freeze", the GC map is not frozen you can scroll it. Just not build anything and all ships stop move and so does the tick timer so it acts more like "game is paused". Green/Red Swords icon will flash on the planet where the endless loop battle occurs. If the map is really frozen I have no clue, never heard that one before :(


Originally posted by molchåmor:
If it is the base-game AIvsAI battle "freeze", the GC map is not frozen you can scroll it. Just not build anything and all ships stop move and so does the tick timer so it acts more like "game is paused". Green/Red Swords icon will flash on the planet where the endless loop battle occurs. If the map is really frozen I have no clue, never heard that one before :(

In that case whatever is happening to my games is not that. This is a full on freeze, can't click or move anything and need to alt tab out sand force close the game.
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molchåmor 30 Nov, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Thanks for clarifying, OK so you have a real freeze and not the "game acts like paused" semi-freeze. Never had that myself.

Try running the two exe files (foc/starwarsG I think they are called) with win xp compatibility set in their propertis and run some stress test tool maybe ? While you´re at it disable steam overlay for the game, check affinity and ensure it is only run on one core, and run some diagnostics tool as well (ram, ssd,...) and check that your antivirus is up to date and perform a new scan.

My feeling here with 3k+ hours in this and countless hours reading on forums is that this is something else than the game. However, strange things are known to happen if game is run into and beyond say week 300 or so with lots of units around, is this the case here ? My campaigns are usually done and dusted after 100-150 rounds. Usually AOTR is really stable nowadays at least for me (not the case 1-2 years ago though).

You can also google "eaw gc map freeze" and browse through all threads you find there, but yeah, no clue really unfortunately what is going on here.
Last edited by molchåmor; 30 Nov, 2024 @ 12:33pm
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DragonBoyLex 2 Dec, 2024 @ 10:49am 
I've run windows debug after the crash and it came up with this, if anyone can understand code speak please let me know whats happening!!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-9JAaW0B01yZd3jYFPBpTWEKBHQFIOmy?usp=drive_link
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DragonBoyLex 5 Dec, 2024 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by molchåmor:
Thanks for clarifying, OK so you have a real freeze and not the "game acts like paused" semi-freeze. Never had that myself.

Try running the two exe files (foc/starwarsG I think they are called) with win xp compatibility set in their propertis and run some stress test tool maybe ? While you´re at it disable steam overlay for the game, check affinity and ensure it is only run on one core, and run some diagnostics tool as well (ram, ssd,...) and check that your antivirus is up to date and perform a new scan.

My feeling here with 3k+ hours in this and countless hours reading on forums is that this is something else than the game. However, strange things are known to happen if game is run into and beyond say week 300 or so with lots of units around, is this the case here ? My campaigns are usually done and dusted after 100-150 rounds. Usually AOTR is really stable nowadays at least for me (not the case 1-2 years ago though).

You can also google "eaw gc map freeze" and browse through all threads you find there, but yeah, no clue really unfortunately what is going on here.


I've run windows debug a few times after each crash and it comes up with BREAKPOINT_80000003_StarWarsG.exe!Unknown whatever that means. It seems this is the core issue of my crash but I don't really understand why. Other mods and the base game work fine with no issues like this, just this mod which i have reinstalled and re verified several times to make sire everything is installed correctly.

I've included the windows debug file in a google drive link if you or anyone else is able to parse and translate it for me
Last edited by DragonBoyLex; 5 Dec, 2024 @ 2:30am
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