Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

Eye of the Hurricane: A Central European Expansion (Defunct)
Elfangor567  [developer] 18 Jun, 2018 @ 10:19am
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Did you just Switzerland into Germany in 1936? Did I forget a famous general or admiral? Let me know here so that I can look into it!
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sigurd1012 20 Jun, 2018 @ 9:54am 
How does one become Austria-Hungary? In order to take that Decision, you need to own Czechoslovakia - but you can't protect Czechoslovakia until you're Austria-Hungary.
t4nky0uv3rymuch 20 Jun, 2018 @ 10:56am 
Well, i have a couple of suggestions regarding the mechanized line for Austria. Since the ADGZ was an armoured car, the Austro-Daimler ADMK, and the Saurer RR-7 would be more suitable for the first two mechanized Equipment-technologies. As for the last one, im not sure about that, maybe the OT-810 since czech stuff appeared in the tank-techtree, optionally the Saurer 4K3H would be a fine choice as well. Regarding the at-guns, its kind of weird to see the 47mm Böhler M.35 under the italian designation, technically the 80mm Böhler M.18 could be used for the 2nd or third At-gun technology. For the ´43 AA-Artillery, id suggest the 80m Luftfahrzeugabwehrkanone M.8. And the normal artillery, id suggest using the 100mm Feldhaubitze M.14 or the 100mm Gebirgshaubitze M.16 for the 2nd one and either the 150mm Autokanone M.15/16 or the 150mm Feldhaubitze M.15
Elfangor567  [developer] 20 Jun, 2018 @ 12:33pm 
@sigurd1012
In the previous focus, Horthy will either step down (and you will form it immediately), or you can take a decision once you control all of Austria and Hungary.
Elfangor567  [developer] 20 Jun, 2018 @ 12:56pm 
@t4nky0uv3rymuch
- Motorized should be a truck, so I'll stick with the Steyr 440
- The Saurer RR-7 would actually probably make a better mechanized 1 (I will make change and update) Only regret is that the ADGZ now dissappears. I'll probably keep a fictional version for one of the tiers.
- I really wanted to put the ADMK somewhere just because of how silly it looks, but I couldn't find a good place (I don't really think that mechanized is the best place). It gets a shout-out with the fictional ADMK Übermulus tier 1 heavy tank.
- OT-810 is an option, but I think the fictional "what if" designation fits better in this particular case.
- The Saurer 4K3H came out far too late to be a serious consideration. (1958)
- I used the more well-known Italian designation, but yeah, in hindsight I should change it.
- 80mm Böhler M.18 is a WWI gun, it would be horribly outdated.
- Okay you stumped me and google, I have no idea what the 80m Luftfahrzeugabwehrkanone M.8 is. Is there a source I could look at? And why would it be better than Oerlikon (who had an excellent relationship with Austria?)
- These are WWI weapons, they would be horribly outdated by this point.
Last edited by Elfangor567; 20 Jun, 2018 @ 12:58pm
i need a bit of help.... i got the event where i had to fight hungary instead if them surrendering to me.... i defeated them swiftly but im still not know as Austria-Hungary?! there is not a decision in the decisions tab for somereason... if its an event chould you like me the Event ID so i can use the console commands to become austria-hungary?
Elfangor567  [developer] 21 Jun, 2018 @ 3:47am 
@(♛)ShadowGreenWolf(♛)
No decision? Odd. Need to check up on that one. Anyway, try event EYE_aus.100.
76561198839756313 21 Jun, 2018 @ 7:00am 
Make Polish's Focus Tree to be Sanation, and A way to oppose Sanation and way into More Nationalistic Spirit of Poland (ONR) also to Reform Poland-Lithuania Also a Polish Economic Reform wich made Poland very strong wich Transformed old Value to Zloty the New Polish Economy Value Also make German Focus tree To Opose Hitler and make Commies in Charge , Monarchists and make German's Expansion Focus Where u can create Deustches-Mittelafrika , Reichkomissariat (Make an Expansion of Generalgouvernament,Böhmen und Mähren , Moskowien , Ostland,Ukraine ,Dänemark , Norwegen , Niederlande und Kaukasien Nordrußsland-Westsibrien,Sibrien,und last Turkestan also make a South Tyrol Deal wich give italy -5 Consumer Goods for South Tyrol and Millitary Advisors Also Make Hungarian Focus Tree Based on Austrian one But more Freedomic without Austro Hungary a Way To Revive The Hungarian Kingdom (HK) or go into normal republic under a democrat from hungarz and Romanian way To Revive Dacia (Old Romanian Empire) or make Greater Romania with Deal with Adolf Hitler and also Czech Focus Tree to Opose Hitler occupation of Sudetenland wich makes Some Troops Mobilization or Deal With Adolf Hitler against Communism or rather Reviving an Entente on it own With France,Romania,Yugoslavia,Poland,Balts,Britain thats it i also Make Slovakian Focus Tree but very short with 35 Days so u can get some Techs under it Like Revive Slovakian State, Listen To Adolf Hitler Ideas,Croatian Focus would ve been Exactly Almost same but would be diffrent with National Ideas and Focuses i guess Balts would have same Focus for each other np Lithuania To Revive its Press into Vilnius and make Baltic Empire However others would had same focus tho thats it wish u use some ideas out of that
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t4nky0uv3rymuch 21 Jun, 2018 @ 9:54am 
@Elfangor The ADMK was pretty much a mechanized transport. Designed to carry 2 passengers and a Schwarzlose Machinegun. And i meant that those two would be the mechanized Equipment (ADMK for the first, RR-7 for the 2nd.) The ADGZ could be used as the Tier 2 light tank if you want it in the game, it probably would fit there due to its armament and armour compared to L3/35. Btw, the L3/35 was known as "Panzerwagen Fiat-Ansaldo M.35" or "Fiat-Ansaldo Kampfwagen CV-35" in Austria, im not sure which of those was used atm, i could look it up though
The Böhler M.18 was used by the austrian army until the Anschluss in 1938, same goes for the guns i meantioned. The Böhler M.18 was considered for the use as AT-Gun in case the Jansa-Plan would have been initiated, which, as we know nowadays, never happened (the Jansa-Plan was basically what would have been done if the Anschluss got rejected and Germany would have attacked, the basica idea would have been to hold out until either the Allies or Italy would intervene, i could go more into detail, but that would be a bit too much for a steam-post)
The 80m Luftfahrzeugabwehrkanone M.8 was basically the only heavy aa-gun that Austria had at the time, It was a Skoda fieldgun in an AA-mount. A guy in the Austrian Military History Museum once told me, that some of them were later refitted with longer Barrels from the Böhler M.18s during the 30s when most of the equipment got modernized (like the various rifles, thats why theres a M.95/30) to increase the range.
Also, not sure about that rn, but i think there werent that many Steyr 440s, compared to other trucks like the ADAZ, ADGR and the Steyr 640, but i could be mistaken. It has been a while since i looked all the austrian trucks up when i had the goal to model all of them.
Last edited by t4nky0uv3rymuch; 21 Jun, 2018 @ 9:55am
Elfangor567  [developer] 21 Jun, 2018 @ 3:07pm 
@RockofSteel
I don't really like to touch nations that Paradox themselves have already done, such as Hungary, Poland, and Germany. So a mod changing them is unlikely. A mod focused on Germany's puppets is not impossible, especially since it would tie well into my Scandinavian mod which features Occupied Denmark and Quisling Norway. The other problem with your ideas is that they create "bloat", AKA giant focus trees that have no actual focus. This is my biggest gripe with Rt56, it features tons of focus trees, but many of them are so large that they don't get even close to finished by the end of the game. I try to limit myself to 100 foci or less per tree. It's okay in Kaiserreich since many of them are story-based (as is the mod itself) but its not so great for my DLC style mods.
Elfangor567  [developer] 21 Jun, 2018 @ 4:35pm 
- The times of development just don't add up sadly, so I can't use the ADMK.
- Interesting about the tank. Not surprising since it looks to literally mean Fiat-Ansaldo Tank CV-35. I suppose I could change the long name.
- Using old weapons as a last resort is not the same thing as researching newer technologies. I am aware that Austria used much of its old WWI A-H stock, or planned to do so. Again however, I am not going to put a 1916 tech as a 1939 one just because it happens to actually exist. The Anschluss means that I have had to simply just get creative with what Austria possibly could have made had they not been annexed.
- If you can find me a link for that AA gun, I will gladly use it. I just can't find any record of its existance. I know its possible, since the Austrians had 1 heavy AA battery, which I can find references too, but none of them state what kind of Heavy AA gun the battery consisted of. Unless you mean the 8 cm Luftfahrzeugabwehr-Kanone M 5/8 MP, but that thing's anti-air abilities were uh, yikes. Especially when I have the Oerlikon. I suppose I could rename it to Oerlikon Contraves GAI-B01 in order to match its exact Austrian Federal Army designation for its long name. (Unless this is a modern version, translating from German to English is always somewhat iffy online, and can be hard/misleading to read)
- The ADAZ and ADGR were both contenders, although both were produced less than the Steyr 440. (ADAZ-28, ADR-185, ADGR-361, Steyr 440 - 713). I didn't use the Steyr 640 only because it wasn't produced until 1937 (where it served the same role as the 440). I preferred to have the 440 in order to preserve time-period correctness. (3,780 Steyr 640's were made, but many of them post Anschluss, production went from 1937-1941)
Last edited by Elfangor567; 21 Jun, 2018 @ 4:47pm
AGS 22 Jun, 2018 @ 5:48pm 
You might add a new focus and decisions for Czechoslovakia, it would be nice as it is often regarded as an "Central/Eastern" European country.
Elfangor567  [developer] 22 Jun, 2018 @ 5:52pm 
@Mussolini
They already have a focus tree. I don't really plan on modding any countries paradox has already done. Not when I can put my focus towards other places.
t4nky0uv3rymuch 23 Jun, 2018 @ 8:24am 
I just realized that i confused the 440 for a different model... Well, im only human after all.
Regarding the 80m Luftfahrzeugabwehrkanone M.8, its exactly the same as the 8 cm Luftfahrzeugabwehr-Kanone M 5/8 MP, just with a couple of modifications made during the 30s, mainly regarding the sights and such things. Also, im not sure if i remember that correctly right now, but i heard that there were a couple of Bofors AA guns, around 30 or 40, but besides that, there were only 20mm Oerlikon-cannons and MG-30s in AA-mounts.
Also, regarding the second Mechanized, how about the Raupenschlepper Ost (RSO)? It was built by Steyr and the time of development would be somewhat right for that one.
Btw, all of the things i list isnt suppossed to annoy you or force you to do something, its just suppossed to improve the mod if one wants to play as Austria.
Elfangor567  [developer] 23 Jun, 2018 @ 5:30pm 
@t4nky0uv3rymuch
Oh, I am not annoyed at all. I am only one person, and one who does not speak German. I can only do so much research with so much accuracy by myself. You are not the first person to make suggestions and I hope you will not be the last. This stuff is exactly why I have this discussion page. It also allows me to explain some of my reasoning that may otherwise go un-explained.
And you are certainly right about the lack of Austrian AA, they had some agreements with Oerlikon, but before anything could really get off the ground, the Anschluss happened.
Hirohito 23 Jun, 2018 @ 6:09pm 
I really like your mods. They are probably up there with some of the highest quality.

I found a really annoying Issue though. So i'm sitting In my game as Switzerland and watching for the first time as the my neighboor AI starts rebuilding the Austrian-Hungarian empire. I'm loving It. But than Germany did the Anschluss and annexed a ton of land.

I think that If you could make It so Austria Is more likely to refuse would be better or even just make It a garunteed no.

If you really want you could do a chain of events where Germany tries the coop and fails. Then Austria and Germany relationships will go through turmoil through some events and will lead down two paths of either a Civil War In Germany of the lower parts and the Annexation into Austria or a all out war between the two. I think It'd be awesome If you gave Germany some debuffs at the start of the war so that they aren't able to overpower the Autria forces. If you could somehow make it so the war was really dragged out kind of recreating the stalemate between France and Germany of WW1. I also just like wars that seem more epic.

Hope we get a focus tree for Portugal. I would love to see what you would do If you redid the American focus tree.
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