-80 % damage penalty
on backstab: if the enemy has a beard cosmetic it dissapears

-50% damage on facestab
on hit: revel enemy spy's disguise permanently
-30% deploy time

Not every item needs unique stats homie

Pros:
25% faster swing speed
causes 10 seconds of bleed on hit

Cons:
backstabs only damages 75% of enemys health

Bonus: taunt causes spy to shave himself and everykill removes the enemys beard

tbh

when equipped:
swings induce bleed (does not stack)
+x% movement speed on wearer when undisguised (something not stupid nor overpowering)

-20% swing speed

(-)replaces backstab animation with a throat cut animation (ie backstab isnt instant)

a nerf to backstabs that isnt removing the autokill, a buff to butterknifing that isnt a straight damage or swing speed increase, and a fleshed out sweeney-todd theming all in one

-15% damage
+10% holster speed
+15% swing speed
On Miss:Hit yourself,Idiot (In french)





I like this item

Originally posted by shiny:

-15% damage
+10% holster speed
+15% swing speed
On Miss:Hit yourself,Idiot (In french)





I like this item :rodent:

your idea is probably the best to be honest very simple and not op or bad just simple and good

Originally posted by GrandPa Joey:

Originally posted by shiny:

-15% damage
+10% holster speed
+15% swing speed
On Miss:Hit yourself,Idiot (In french)





I like this item

your idea is probably the best to be honest very simple and not op or bad just simple and good

Thanks

Originally posted by GrandPa Joey:

Originally posted by shiny:

-15% damage
+10% holster speed
+15% swing speed
On Miss:Hit yourself,Idiot (In french)





I like this item :rodent:

your idea is probably the best to be honest very simple and not op or bad just simple and good

no gimmick its just a boston basher for spy

would a boston basher whiff punishment really be a good idea on a class where the melee is super important tho

Originally posted by samanthaprobably (new keyboard!):

would a boston basher whiff punishment really be a good idea on a class where the melee is super important tho

ikr

Originally posted by samanthaprobably (new keyboard!):

would a boston basher whiff punishment really be a good idea on a class where the melee is super important tho

I mean you wouldn't be punished if you land all your attacks,if you are good nothing bad happens but if you are bad you will get punished for it

Originally posted by go watch tip of the hats:

Originally posted by samanthaprobably (new keyboard!):

would a boston basher whiff punishment really be a good idea on a class where the melee is super important tho

I mean you wouldn't be punished if you land all your attacks,if you are good nothing bad happens but if you are bad you will get punished for it

yes, but the reason that's okay on scout is because his melee is, first, not his most used weapon, and second, a lot more situational as a tool
giving spy a self damaging on miss knife would be like giving sniper a self damaging on miss sniper rifle, or scout a self damaging on miss scattergun