2 op 4 me 5% moving speed is nothing

yeah true

more cons for game balance

"+10% Clip Size"
I don't think you know what "Clip Size" means.

Originally posted by There he is!:

"+10% Clip Size"
I don't think you know what "Clip Size" means.

I know what clip size is, I just don't know if +10% is a large amount, or a small amount.

Originally posted by Guy†Gallant:

Originally posted by There he is!:

"+10% Clip Size"
I don't think you know what "Clip Size" means.

I know what clip size is, I just don't know if +10% is a large amount, or a small amount.

10% of 6 = 0.6
You'd have 6.6 shots in your clip, meaning you'd either just have 6 shots or 7 shots. A more accurate number would probably be 15-16% (16% of 6 is 0.96, almost 1.)

Even then, 1 extra shot isn't a lot.

Originally posted by There he is!:

Originally posted by Guy†Gallant:

I know what clip size is, I just don't know if +10% is a large amount, or a small amount.

10% of 6 = 0.6
You'd have 6.6 shots in your clip, meaning you'd either just have 6 shots or 7 shots. A more accurate number would probably be 15-16% (16% of 6 is 0.96, almost 1.)

Even then, 1 extra shot isn't a lot.

OK...so, maybe +20% clip size?

Originally posted by Guy†Gallant:

Originally posted by There he is!:

10% of 6 = 0.6
You'd have 6.6 shots in your clip, meaning you'd either just have 6 shots or 7 shots. A more accurate number would probably be 15-16% (16% of 6 is 0.96, almost 1.)

Even then, 1 extra shot isn't a lot.

OK...so, maybe +20% clip size?

Again, +20% clip size is an incorrect use of the stat. I'll ask - how many bullets are supposed to be in the magazine before you have to reload it?

Its how stats are listed

I think It should be the most BADASS shotgun ever.

+25% Damage
-85% Clip Size (One shot)
+15% Spread
-20% Movement Speed When Active
x3 As many Bullets.
+25% Slower Reload
-50% Ammo Reserve
+15% Slower Draw Time (Being, Pulling it out)

Basically, In its one shot it shoots 18 Bullets at once, it is Eqquivlant to If you shot a normal shotgun three times that had +25% Damage on it.
It is a one shot wonder, But if you get close enough to F someone up.

They are dead.

As far as crits, It could be no random crits, or Inverted Critial Hits
every time it would random crit, it mini-crits.
Any time it would Mini-crit, It crits.

Another weapon to buddy up with scouts I gues.. *Shrug*
Fan Of War and this would work good..
And then the scout could also have the sun on a stick to get the fir- Oh wait...
Yeah Sun on a stick is still bad.

Originally posted by Fennikk:

I think It should be the most BADASS shotgun ever.

+25% Damage
-85% Clip Size (One shot)
+15% Spread
-20% Movement Speed When Active
x3 As many Bullets.
+25% Slower Reload
-50% Ammo Reserve
+15% Slower Draw Time (Being, Pulling it out)

Basically, In its one shot it shoots 18 Bullets at once, it is Eqquivlant to If you shot a normal shotgun three times that had +25% Damage on it.
It is a one shot wonder, But if you get close enough to F someone up.

They are dead.

As far as crits, It could be no random crits, or Inverted Critial Hits
every time it would random crit, it mini-crits.
Any time it would Mini-crit, It crits.

Another weapon to buddy up with scouts I gues.. *Shrug*
Fan Of War and this would work good..
And then the scout could also have the sun on a stick to get the fir- Oh wait...
Yeah Sun on a stick is still bad.

How about:
+200% holster time (putting it away)

One shot wonder, but if you miss you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥, like a jigglypuff neutral b from smash (I think, the one where you go to sleep)

Originally posted by Fuzzles:

Originally posted by Fennikk:

I think It should be the most BADASS shotgun ever.

+25% Damage
-85% Clip Size (One shot)
+15% Spread
-20% Movement Speed When Active
x3 As many Bullets.
+25% Slower Reload
-50% Ammo Reserve
+15% Slower Draw Time (Being, Pulling it out)

Basically, In its one shot it shoots 18 Bullets at once, it is Eqquivlant to If you shot a normal shotgun three times that had +25% Damage on it.
It is a one shot wonder, But if you get close enough to F someone up.

They are dead.

As far as crits, It could be no random crits, or Inverted Critial Hits
every time it would random crit, it mini-crits.
Any time it would Mini-crit, It crits.

Another weapon to buddy up with scouts I gues.. *Shrug*
Fan Of War and this would work good..
And then the scout could also have the sun on a stick to get the fir- Oh wait...
Yeah Sun on a stick is still bad.

How about:
+200% holster time (putting it away)

One shot wonder, but if you miss you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥, like a jigglypuff neutral b from smash (I think, the one where you go to sleep)

Eh.. 200% is a bit much.. 150% sounds good maybe?
I do like that you agree with my idea!

my ideas:
pros:
+50% damage
3x the amount of shotgun pellets per shot
on hit: gain a speed boost for a few seconds
cons:
-45% clip size
-10% max health on wearer
needs to reload after 1 shot
x3 reload time
+50% holster time
-20% movement speed when active

Teah that sounds pretty good, I just overall feel like this gun should just BANG you know?

pros
50% faster fire speed

cons
15% less damage
35% less accurate
35% slower reload speed speed
50% clip size penalty

The Victorian Blast
Level ??? Shotgun

Pros
50% of damage dealt vs burning players is returned to the wearer as health
20% damage bonus

Cons
-50% clip size
15% less accurate