Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

Lesbocracy
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amoral minority  [developer] 10 Oct, 2018 @ 5:52am
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amoral minority  [developer] 10 Oct, 2018 @ 6:07am 
  • "I clicked the button to organize an expedition, but after the event popped up nothing happened!":
    You have to pay attention: you use that event to pick the destination, you have to then right-click on a non-landed society member residing in your court to get the decision to send them on that expedition;

  • "I'm not getting the option to marry my lover. I am a member of the School of Sappho":
    It does not unlock immediately upon the creation of the society - you have to wait about 60 - 70 years;

  • "Lesbian marriage doesn't work":
    Are you trying to arrange your marriage through the vanilla diplomatic action? That won't work - you need to use a special decision.
    Are you using the decision on a lover?
    Is the decision missing? Refer to the previous question.
    If it's neither of those things, you need to describe exactly why you think it's broken. What character you're playing, how many years have you been playing - everything.

  • "I'm not receiving any new missions":
    If you are the Mistress/Matriarch, you need to have at least one other 4th rank member to give you the missions;

  • "The text does not fit into the event window":
    Yeah, I might have overlooked that. Tell me which event it is and I will fix it;

  • "After the threesome event, my spouse didn't get any new lovers":
    Yes, she did, you just can't see them because the game doesn't allow you to. Use the debug mode to see them.

  • "I got the mission to turn some woman gay, but when I tried to do it, she already had the "Homosexual" trait!":
    Had to do your thing faster then - someone has done it for you :D
Last edited by amoral minority; 9 Jun, 2019 @ 2:40pm
Cyberspacer 11 Oct, 2018 @ 8:53pm 
About how long does it take for the prisoner event to fire? It's been 10 years in a persia game for me with the requirements met, and still nothing
amoral minority  [developer] 12 Oct, 2018 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by Cyberspacer:
About how long does it take for the prisoner event to fire? It's been 10 years in a persia game for me with the requirements met, and still nothing
If you're tribal, it won't fire. Also, if you see that you can join the Golden Orchid, it also won't fire.
Finally, it may be that the School of Sappho has already been created, which would also block it from firing.
In all other cases it fires once every 5 years.
Mysterious COp 19 Nov, 2018 @ 6:26am 
Is there any event beyond lesbianism on the rise. I have been playing for 50 years after that event fired as Italy but no event fired aside from some random event regarding community, If so what its requirement.
amoral minority  [developer] 19 Nov, 2018 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by Mysterious COp:
Is there any event beyond lesbianism on the rise. I have been playing for 50 years after that event fired as Italy but no event fired aside from some random event regarding community, If so what its requirement.
After the event that unlocks lesbian marriages there is only one other event, which stops the persecution of School of Sappho members.
Aside from that there are random events with lovers, events tied to different buildings in your demesne etc. Some of these events will only fire if two of the above mentioned events have or haven't yet fired.
MladoTouan 19 Nov, 2018 @ 8:32am 
What's the difference between les_gynarchy_government and les_gynarchy_r_government ?
Why are both named Feudal Gynarchy while the former can use temples? (thus making it similar to Theocratic Feudal)
Also I understand than only Tribal female leaders get an "easy" decision to turn into matriarchy, female leaders from other government types need to use sneakier approachs?
amoral minority  [developer] 19 Nov, 2018 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by MasterTouan:
What's the difference between les_gynarchy_government and les_gynarchy_r_government ?
Why are both named Feudal Gynarchy while the former can use temples? (thus making it similar to Theocratic Feudal)
The difference IS that the former can use temples. Also, it cannot demand religious conversion, unlike the latter. The type is determined by your religion. That's all I will share, as I don't want to give any comments on datamined information (though I will not discourage players from discussing it among themselves on this or any other page).


Originally posted by MasterTouan:
What's the difference between les_gynarchy_government and les_gynarchy_r_government ?
Also I understand than only Tribal female leaders get an "easy" decision to turn into matriarchy, female leaders from other government types need to use sneakier approachs?
Matriarchies are tribal-type governments, meaning that only tribals can access it, but I get what you're saying, and yeah, tribal characters do get an easy way to get Full Status of Women without having to level up their Tolerance tech. Not sure that "sneaky" is the best way to describe a feudal playthrough though.
MladoTouan 19 Nov, 2018 @ 1:56pm 
Originally posted by Buzhidao:
The difference IS that the former can use temples. Also, it cannot demand religious conversion, unlike the latter. The type is determined by your religion. That's all I will share, as I don't want to give any comments on datamined information (though I will not discourage players from discussing it among themselves on this or any other page).
Ah alright, I get it now. I was just checking on how to mod govs since the new update (to make them playables mainly or decisions to flip from one to another). I ended up looking at how other mods dealt with this matter, and if yours had a matriarchy versions for all the vanilla types out of curiosity.
Did you see there's now a mercenary_government type?
You could probably try to do female-only mercenaries, and maybe even "holy" orders focused on females and not religion (with a "holy" war CB against patriarchies). Not sure about the doability though.

Originally posted by Buzhidao:
Matriarchies are tribal-type governments, meaning that only tribals can access it, but I get what you're saying, and yeah, tribal characters do get an easy way to get Full Status of Women without having to level up their Tolerance tech. Not sure that "sneaky" is the best way to describe a feudal playthrough though.
Well, having to slowly build Tolerance or making use of secret societies feel sneakier to me than accumulating prestige/power as a tribal leaderess and openly enforcing matriarchy!
Last edited by MladoTouan; 19 Nov, 2018 @ 2:01pm
amoral minority  [developer] 19 Nov, 2018 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by MasterTouan:
Well, having to slowly build Tolerance or making use of secret societies feel sneakier to me than accumulating prestige/power as a tribal leaderess and openly enforcing matriarchy!
That's true, but Golden Orchid is not a secret society and it (almost) has the same mechanics as School of Sappho.
Mysterious COp 22 Dec, 2018 @ 11:00pm 
In one of my playthrough, I got the ability to create a love potion and a lesbian making portion under independent project but it was gone in my other playthrough. Is there a requirement for it or just pure luck?
amoral minority  [developer] 23 Dec, 2018 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by Mysterious COp:
In one of my playthrough, I got the ability to create a love potion and a lesbian making portion under independent project but it was gone in my other playthrough. Is there a requirement for it or just pure luck?
There is a certain requirement for it + supernatural events need to be turned on in game rules
Amlet 14 Feb, 2019 @ 5:38pm 
First of all: great mod, second a I have problems with it.
I'm playing as an immortal unmarried taoist female han under the Protectorate. I joined the Golden Orchid and started to adopt child whenever I needed a count. But after 4-5 adoptions the "Adpot Child"decision disapperead.
My character is 56 years old atm (but is a young immortal), never married or never been intimate with a man.
I can select the command for offer/take cucibine, select the woman and get the -50 malus on relations but no concubine appear in the relation's tab.
Also the "Start indipendent project" and "Organize an expedition" decisions are always present. The second can by exploited and farmed for more stats; the first is displayed but bugged because I start the expedition, choose the destination, nothing happens and I can repeat the loop.
I have installed several mods but nothing should be messing with this mod, mostly are: graphic, call to arms, chinese government rework, new building, magic.
For the member score combos like genius+attractive+strong give a +2400/4900% modifier, doesn't it be a bit too much?
amoral minority  [developer] 15 Feb, 2019 @ 3:26am 
Originally posted by Amlet:
First of all: great mod, second a I have problems with it.
I'm playing as an immortal unmarried taoist female han under the Protectorate. I joined the Golden Orchid and started to adopt child whenever I needed a count. But after 4-5 adoptions the "Adpot Child"decision disapperead.
My character is 56 years old atm (but is a young immortal), never married or never been intimate with a man.
I can select the command for offer/take cucibine, select the woman and get the -50 malus on relations but no concubine appear in the relation's tab.
Also the "Start indipendent project" and "Organize an expedition" decisions are always present. The second can by exploited and farmed for more stats; the first is displayed but bugged because I start the expedition, choose the destination, nothing happens and I can repeat the loop.
I have installed several mods but nothing should be messing with this mod, mostly are: graphic, call to arms, chinese government rework, new building, magic.
For the member score combos like genius+attractive+strong give a +2400/4900% modifier, doesn't it be a bit too much?

Child adoption is set up in a way to prevent players from abusing the system to create new loyal vassals and increase dynasty prestige. 5 children is the upper limit. I will take your concerns into consideration though, and after the next update you will be able to adopt more children if the other ones have already died.

I cannot say exactly why these concubines don't appear on your character interface. If you go to the concubine's interface are they listed as your concubines or not?

To understand how the "Organize an expedition" decision works, refer to the very first post on this page. It explain this decision in detail.
The "Independent project" works exactly as it should. You can't farm it for stats after the age of 50, but it IS meant to be used to farm for techpoints - that is its main purpose.

As for member scores - these societies are designed to be meritocracies and talent is prioritized over rank. So when a Mistress dies, the game would pick a young and talented new Mistress, instead of an old, but high-ranked one.
Amlet 15 Feb, 2019 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Buzhidao:
I cannot say exactly why these concubines don't appear on your character interface. If you go to the concubine's interface are they listed as your concubines or not?
https://pasteboard.co/I1h4eue.png
I tried to take Shuyuan as concubine, she has also the -50 (hate) modifier but doesn't appear in the list (the concubine list isn't displayed either) and they aren't either tagged as my concubine. Could it be because I'm unmarried or because the target has weak claim? It doesn't work with my homosexual/married daughter either.
Originally posted by Buzhidao:
As for member scores - these societies are designed to be meritocracies and talent is prioritized over rank. So when a Mistress dies, the game would pick a young and talented new Mistress, instead of an old, but high-ranked one.
I understand and it's a elegant solution. I'm stunned at the combo, for example: attactive +50%, genius +10%, attractive and genius +2400% plus +50% and +10% for each of them.
https://pasteboard.co/I1h7ehU.png
Originally posted by Buzhidao:
Child adoption is set up in a way to prevent players from abusing the system to create new loyal vassals and increase dynasty prestige. 5 children is the upper limit. I will take your concerns into consideration though, and after the next update you will be able to adopt more children if the other ones have already died.
Yes please and also count only the daughters and not the grand daughter, etc.
Can we send adopted child to the emperor as concubine?
Originally posted by Buzhidao:
To understand how the "Organize an expedition" decision works, refer to the very first post on this page. It explain this decision in detail.
https://pasteboard.co/I1hdmW9.png
https://pasteboard.co/I1hdZn7.png
I start the event and choose the destination but none of the member inside my court goes because the tooltip says no expedition quest and no 1000 cash.
Previously I did an expedition and I have found a book of the lesbian of the mediterrean.
Last edited by Amlet; 15 Feb, 2019 @ 6:11am
amoral minority  [developer] 15 Feb, 2019 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by Amlet:
Can we send adopted child to the emperor as concubine?
Yes, you probably can. I don't see why not.
Last edited by amoral minority; 16 Feb, 2019 @ 4:42am
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