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Theronguard  [developer] 21 Dec, 2018 @ 5:18am
Balancing
Here's the thread in which you can blame your own lack of skills on the game! Just kidding. If you think a spell is too strong or too weak, complain here, but at least be constructive about it!
Don't say something like: "fookin grappling hooks are too op" - explain why.
Offering a solution raises chances for any changes.

Also, don't expect that something will change just because you want it, unless you're really making sense, more people will have to agree with you.

Changelog:

24.12.2018 10:26 AM:
-Nerfed quickdash from 50% strength to 25%.

27.12.2018 12:23 PM:

-Nerfed moan:
CD: 18s -> 23s
Mana: 40 -> 46
Duration: 4s -> 2s

-Nerfed catface:
CD: 56s-> 75s
Mana: 75 -> 85s
+Whenever you're too close to the enemy that was hit by the catface, it affects you too.

27.12.2018 8:49 PM:

-Nerfed friction rod:
AOE Damage of friction rod deals 18 DMG instead of 25 and the explosion radius reduced to 3.3m from 4m.

-Nerfed moan (again)
Now it doesn't have infinite range. You can't look at the attacker only in 6 meter radius.

29.12.2018 3:10 PM:

-Nerfed flash
Max duration 2.5 -> 1.5
CD 8 -> 12
Mana 16 -> 20

-Buffed Light Refraction
Mana 30 -> 25

29.12.2018 4:21 PM:
-Nerfed Detonation
Mana 22 -> 36
CD 10 -> 16

29.12.2018 6:41 PM:
-Buffed Debug wireframe sphere
CD 120 -> 81
Mana 97-> 74

26.4.2019 4:27 PM:
-Increased hitboxes for fists (to make the fighting more dynamic)
-Boostgate is 1.5x stronger
-Manipulator costs less and has lower CD
-Plasma discharge is now extremely fast
-Groundcharge has stronger knockback
-Boing has larger range
-Friction rod charges a bit longer

27.4.2019 6:27 PM:
-Buffed light refraction range
-Buffed Lunge (lower mana cost)
-Buffed shadowform (lower mana cost)
-Buffed bullseye (lower mana cost)
Last edited by Theronguard; 27 Apr, 2019 @ 9:29am
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Melanch0lyCat 23 Dec, 2018 @ 9:49pm 
Nerf the passive for the 1.5x increased dash just a tad bit, maybe add a negative value like increased cooldown by 3 seconds, which makes the dash have an 8 second cooldown, or make it 1.25x instead.
Reason for this is because a friend and I were just playing on the space map, and he literally could not kill me even at 999% because I manage to keep coming back with just the dash alone and a few double jumps. It makes you pretty much immortal on certain maps :/
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Theronguard  [developer] 24 Dec, 2018 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by DepressedCat:
Nerf the passive for the 1.5x increased dash just a tad bit, maybe add a negative value like increased cooldown by 3 seconds, which makes the dash have an 8 second cooldown, or make it 1.25x instead.
Reason for this is because a friend and I were just playing on the space map, and he literally could not kill me even at 999% because I manage to keep coming back with just the dash alone and a few double jumps. It makes you pretty much immortal on certain maps :/
Nerfed it. But be ware that being hard to kill isn't mainly due to the quickdash. Drpz_moonribs is the hardest map to knock someone out because of:
a) Lower gravity
b) Size of the map
c) Ground raising the closer you get to the edges (increases friction)
I suggest trying other maps if you're just playing with a friend.
#2
... 24 Dec, 2018 @ 3:38am 
I think more needs to be done to impact recovery on high percentages. A skilled airstrafer can survive past 900% using grapple and dash on some maps. I think past a certain percentage, airstrafing should be gimped and the use of abilities like dash and grapple should be the only sure-fire way of recovering should you get knocked out of the stage.

I propose 300% to be this gimping point, I'd like to discuss this idea further though
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Theronguard  [developer] 24 Dec, 2018 @ 3:48am 
Originally posted by Not a cute snail:
I think more needs to be done to impact recovery on high percentages. A skilled airstrafer can survive past 900% using grapple and dash on some maps. I think past a certain percentage, airstrafing should be gimped and the use of abilities like dash and grapple should be the only sure-fire way of recovering should you get knocked out of the stage.

I propose 300% to be this gimping point, I'd like to discuss this idea further though
I don't really know if there's even a function to impact strafing. I think I might do it by tampering with velocity of a player after a certain percentage. I could also make it so the player gets stunned after a succesful combo if he has high KBP. I have few features to add before that, after I add them, I'll work on it.
Last edited by Theronguard; 24 Dec, 2018 @ 3:48am
#4
Theronguard  [developer] 25 Dec, 2018 @ 6:17am 
Originally posted by Not a cute snail:
I think more needs to be done to impact recovery on high percentages. A skilled airstrafer can survive past 900% using grapple and dash on some maps. I think past a certain percentage, airstrafing should be gimped and the use of abilities like dash and grapple should be the only sure-fire way of recovering should you get knocked out of the stage.

I propose 300% to be this gimping point, I'd like to discuss this idea further though
Managed to do it. Thank you for the suggestion! :D (more info in the gamemode description)
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Sneaky 26 Dec, 2018 @ 5:27am 
Moaning needs a nerf. It's basically invincibility for four seconds, but even better. Perhaps making it an ultimate would be sufficient, or making it so it's only for a second or half a second to sort of throw off your opponents aim.

The cat ultimate should also be slightly nerfed so that the effects last for a specified time instead of an entire life, since if you're in a 1v1 with only 1 life left for both, you activate and it's basically gg since the opponent can't really see anything.
#6
Theronguard  [developer] 26 Dec, 2018 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by Sneaky:
Moaning needs a nerf. It's basically invincibility for four seconds, but even better. Perhaps making it an ultimate would be sufficient, or making it so it's only for a second or half a second to sort of throw off your opponents aim.

The cat ultimate should also be slightly nerfed so that the effects last for a specified time instead of an entire life, since if you're in a 1v1 with only 1 life left for both, you activate and it's basically gg since the opponent can't really see anything.
I'll nerf moaning for sure, I fully agree with you there. I'll nerf the cat, but I'll tweak the mana and CD only, because you still have to aim with it and hit the opponent and it's not super easy if you're not close to him (I might make it so if you're too close you can get hit by the effect too)
#7
... 26 Dec, 2018 @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by Theronguard:
Originally posted by Sneaky:
Moaning needs a nerf. It's basically invincibility for four seconds, but even better. Perhaps making it an ultimate would be sufficient, or making it so it's only for a second or half a second to sort of throw off your opponents aim.

The cat ultimate should also be slightly nerfed so that the effects last for a specified time instead of an entire life, since if you're in a 1v1 with only 1 life left for both, you activate and it's basically gg since the opponent can't really see anything.
I'll nerf moaning for sure, I fully agree with you there. I'll nerf the cat, but I'll tweak the mana and CD only, because you still have to aim with it and hit the opponent and it's not super easy if you're not close to him (I might make it so if you're too close you can get hit by the effect too)

Can you make it show a random cat each time?
#8
Theronguard  [developer] 26 Dec, 2018 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by Not a cute snail:
Originally posted by Theronguard:
I'll nerf moaning for sure, I fully agree with you there. I'll nerf the cat, but I'll tweak the mana and CD only, because you still have to aim with it and hit the opponent and it's not super easy if you're not close to him (I might make it so if you're too close you can get hit by the effect too)

Can you make it show a random cat each time?
Yes, and I will :D
#9
Dazãi 28 Dec, 2018 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Theronguard:
Originally posted by Sneaky:
Moaning needs a nerf. It's basically invincibility for four seconds, but even better. Perhaps making it an ultimate would be sufficient, or making it so it's only for a second or half a second to sort of throw off your opponents aim.

The cat ultimate should also be slightly nerfed so that the effects last for a specified time instead of an entire life, since if you're in a 1v1 with only 1 life left for both, you activate and it's basically gg since the opponent can't really see anything.
I'll nerf moaning for sure, I fully agree with you there. I'll nerf the cat, but I'll tweak the mana and CD only, because you still have to aim with it and hit the opponent and it's not super easy if you're not close to him (I might make it so if you're too close you can get hit by the effect too)
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