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Kudegra Mesa Skin
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Lucky Lily 1 Jan, 2019 @ 1:25pm
Stolen?
I can't morally upvote this because it looks to me like you just slightly edited the Devil Ranger and added a few of your own bits or bits from other skins. Skins should be completely new while still roughly fitting the physique or theme of a warframe, not a mash of other people's work.
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malaya  [developer] 1 Jan, 2019 @ 1:30pm 
look closer lol
Panne of Koeke 1 Jan, 2019 @ 1:35pm 
Yeah I immediately thought it was Devil Ranger's as well. Even if it wasn't intentional—the likeness is palpable enough to cut with a knife.
malaya  [developer] 1 Jan, 2019 @ 1:41pm 
there's overlap between all the skins, it's pretty hard to avoid especially since we're working with a mesh that has a very distinct silhouette. it's not stolen or edited though, everything was sculpted from scratch
Lucky Lily 1 Jan, 2019 @ 1:46pm 
I get that it's inevitable tennogens may look similar but I recommend for starters throwing in a unique twist to each and every detail - to the boot wings for example, make them a different shape or change the trigger thumb to be a bit different. If those don't work, maybe just change the colour of the thumbnail image to somethign a bit different so they don't appear so similar on initial examination. It's gonna turn a lot of people off to the skin when they take a glance at it and just see devil ranger.

I do like the detailing, especially the trim, it's just you have to look out for those key features i.e. the thumb, wingtips, bullets, peacemakers and make them look unique. In its current state I wouldn't buy it over the Devil Ranger as it does a similiar thing but slightly less appealing in my opinion.
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Luna 1 Jan, 2019 @ 2:28pm 
So are you making excuses to create an almost identical skin? Piracy is against the terms of service you know
Panny Bnuy 1 Jan, 2019 @ 2:32pm 
Wait wait hold on. Okay I don't get what you people are seeing. This barely looks like the Devil Ranger skin if at all.
Luna 1 Jan, 2019 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by Panny Birb:
Wait wait hold on. Okay I don't get what you people are seeing. This barely looks like the Devil Ranger skin if at all.
People see things differently i guess. Theres no shame in seeing it differently tho. Contrary to what half of the people in the community will tell you, its okay if you dont share the same opinion
malaya  [developer] 1 Jan, 2019 @ 2:40pm 
I'll concede on the part about the colour, will run it by the designer and see what he thinks. Whether or not you see this as original or derivative that's on you. This was a genuine attempt at something different by me and the concept artist. We'll have differing opinions, that's fine. All I ask is we go about this discussion in a civil manner, no inflammatory speech.

For the record here is a wip to show that it was made from scratch: https://imgur.com/a/yTKbHkj
Lucky Lily 1 Jan, 2019 @ 2:43pm 
I don't want you to be discoraged from future projects and I don't think it's intentionally stolen, nor did I completely think it initailly. My issue is it shares incredible resembelance to not only Devil Ranger but other skins for her as well, all in little bits that appear the same despite it overall being different.
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Panny Bnuy 1 Jan, 2019 @ 2:43pm 
Originally posted by Potato Flipper:
Originally posted by Panny Birb:
Wait wait hold on. Okay I don't get what you people are seeing. This barely looks like the Devil Ranger skin if at all.
People see things differently i guess. Theres no shame in seeing it differently tho. Contrary to what half of the people in the community will tell you, its okay if you dont share the same opinion
It's not really about seeing it diffrently though both the Devil Ranger and this look nothing alike. And personally I just don't want a generally good skin to get dog piled by people claming it's just a copy or stolen from Devil Ranger. Even though that's not even true I mean the helmet and all the way down to the chest are completly diffrent. The most you could say look similar is the silhouette and even that is arguable.
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Dust 1 Jan, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
TL;DR - Not stolen, actually nice.

My initial thoughts were also that it's too similar to Devil Ranger. However, after looking at both I realized something - they're both clear "upgrades" of the vanilla Mesa skin (unlike, for example, the Mesa Prime skin which looks quite different or the Persidio skin which looks vastly different). I'm guessing this has to do with model vs. texture differences.
I also realized I my dislike for the base skin was so big that I never even commited its details to memory - I always used the Persidio skin until Mesa Prime came along.
All in all, I like both this and Devil Ranger. They're not that similar, and they're both good skins.
malaya  [developer] 1 Jan, 2019 @ 3:15pm 
Here are elements of this skin that I believed to be the main "fashion statements" that made it stand out

badges on the shoulders
https://imgur.com/4PNduLX

canisters with metal framing
https://imgur.com/y13kL8v

tubes on the limbs
https://imgur.com/J5AFDai

little hip windows
https://imgur.com/f1vGeLX

magazine window on biceps
https://imgur.com/NuKhYd1

I may have stuck to the natural flow of the model in parts that I thought didn't contribute much to the overall look (like the hands and feet) but I did try to make it as individual as I needed it to be
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PocketYoda 1 Jan, 2019 @ 3:38pm 
Looks nothing like the Devil Ranger op, just attacking people for no reason.
Have any of you even had both pictures side by side? Like can I get one image with both in it? I have links to both up and they honestly share little. At best its a choice of color scheme that may trigger that idea that its stolen. Like lol.
PocketYoda 1 Jan, 2019 @ 3:44pm 
Originally posted by Squidward TentacIes:
Have any of you even had both pictures side by side? Like can I get one image with both in it? I have links to both up and they honestly share little. At best its a choice of color scheme that may trigger that idea that its stolen. Like lol.
They are nothing alike not even close... TBH i feel the op is trolling on purpose to cause grief.
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