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Ultimate Immersive Mod - Part 1
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Struja 11 Jul, 2019 @ 5:38pm
Money difference between samurai and ashigaru
It is a way too big of a difference. This is a decent mod, i like the good part of it. But i really dont understand some things about units.
katana samurai = ~1200 to make and ~155 to upkeep.
yari ashigaru = ~270 to make and ~40 to upkeep
tachi ashigaru = ~350 to make and ~50 to upkeep

I can have 4 ashigaru for 1 samurai, and 4 ashigaru can defeat 2 katana samurai squads, or at least make a massive damage.
In vanilla game it was (upkeep) price of 2 ashigaru for price of 1 samurai, and there are ton of subjects about it on internet. I dont get why have you changed it so drastically when it was already kinda problematic?

I still have not played shogun as i did medieval and some other ones, but better units were rarely more than double the price of the worse ones, and in the end it was worth it. here it kinda is not. It hardly was in vanilla, but here in this mod it definitely is not.

what do you people think of that?
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Vladimire Drăculea Lanceator 25 Jul, 2019 @ 4:13am 
The "Master Of Strategy" Mod seems to have done a better job when balancing
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Daddy Takeda  [developer] 17 Dec, 2019 @ 5:59pm 
I feel I will come back soon to mod this awesome game and I'll have a better look at this cost issue. ;) But since I'm not familiar with the details anymore, I'll go on a hunch and tell you that my initial reasoning was that Samurai weren't only superior in attack and defence, but in morale which play a very important part in this mod. So technically, 2 samurai units should be able to beat 4 Ashigaru units (can change if the ashigaru units gained experience in past battles), but it will cost them like in real life if they were that outnumbered. You need to adapt your style because I went with a more realistically approach to the game. So imo, Samurai are well worth it, but sure don't make full armies of them, it is not worth it and you'll loose a lot of money on upkeep.
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