The Barathrumites will know if you treat with them.
Keep an eye out for anyone peculiar.

huh I have spoken with all of them that I know, and cant seem to find anyone selling one or referencing it anywhere. Maybe I missed someone.

Ahhh, this[wiki.cavesofqud.com] might help if you're new.

finally found the guy who has it, just 1 more question. Is the item they ask for entirely random, because I have no idea what they are asking for in exchange.

Basically they just want any piece of equipment with those two properties in exchange

The first property you can use crayons for if ya can't find it naturally, the second shouldn't be too hard to figure out depending on what body part they're flailing about

Spoilers: They want either gloves, boots or an armlet of any colour used for the text describing it

I'm so sorry for bringing this discussion up again, but i can't find the Xyloschemer or anyone who would mention it, I'm getting to the point where I'm going to have to enter the tomb of the eaters and i've spoken to the people of grit gate and havent found the quest. I'm sorry for being so dense, but could someone tell me who to talk to in a more clear way, again i'm sorry for the bother.

No problem, here's more hints.

Hint 1: It's a secret, not a quest.
Hint 2: Barathrumites sell secrets about tech (like the xyloschemer), water ritual Otho, Barathrum, or Argyve and trade rep for secrets. Alternatively, get infected with mumblemouth.
Hint 3: You're looking for a secret revealing the location of a peculiar snapjaw, there'll be a marker on your map at this point.

Thank you so much, i'll try it out as soon as i can, your help is gold!

Please, just have the snapjaw speak and tell me what it is that he wants. I found that you can nudge him off the map one square at a time. once he's off the map you can kill him and just take a rep hit. I found this was easier to do after two hours of trying and failing to figure out whatever it was he wanted from me.

Can you be more specific on the snapjaw? Unless there's TWO snapjaws that Otho can tell you a secret about, the one he led me too didnt have a xyloschemer, just Stopsvalinn and they were immediately hostile to me because honestly it's really hard to get to grit gate without being hated by snapjaws on the way unless you know what exactly what you are doing. That last part doesnt matter too much to me though as I planned to kill whatever snapjaw had it from the start anyway, but that's beside the point I'm still lost.
Also why make getting the main thing needed to interact with your mod so obtuse? I cant know when someone is selling it without rolling the dice on a weird artifact, and there's no chance I'd know about a specific snapjaw holding it without checking this thread in the first place. It's not a huge deal I just fail to understand why you're so secretive of it, even with the option to start with one (Which btw, didnt know was a thing until after I started a save and I dont want to start over for it)

I give up.

I installed the mod around the time I did Golgotha. Now, I had a bunch of areas already discovered, so it could be that one of the random areas that I had already checked was where I supposed to go, but I've exhausted all barathrumite secrets and all of them have been random ruins and haven't come across the xyloschemer. Checked all villages I knew of, sweeped the initial area for any new ones, checked every vendor I have access to almost daily, dromads, tinkerers. schematic drafters, Argyve, bought every artifact that I couldn't identify, I know the mod's working because I've found the Tinker's Token and a couple of schematic chips. Now I'm well past Omonporch, and I really feel like something must be wrong for me to not have seen a single one.

Listen, man, maybe I'm super unlucky, but could it maybe be possible to just place a hook on a settlement or something? I would really like to build a home to dump my gear and water on, I'm tired of working off a 3 chest hobo camp in joppa, and this is killing my motivation to continue the game.

Nevermind, I guess I'll roll a new character, I don't want to resort to wishes, but damn man, this is kinda frustrating for someone who just wants to play your mod.

Honestly i agree with ottomic like at this point just give us the location, i know i've found it but i entirely forgot where. At this point we all want to use the mod, break the secret and just say it

Originally posted by impliqued:

Honestly i agree with ottomic like at this point just give us the location, i know i've found it but i entirely forgot where. At this point we all want to use the mod, break the secret and just say it

Right, so, based on what I've gathered from the official Discord, and by giving the mod files a go, here's my conclusions:

HEAVY SPOILERS REGARDING THE MOD'S FUNCTIONALITY AHEAD. I'll try to reveal them from less directly to more, but the short version is, the mod works, but you might not encounter a xyloschemer for a good chunk of the game. If you need more of a nudge in the right direction I'd advise checking Armithaig's comments above. If not, here goes:

1) The guaranteed Xyloschemer is an "oddity", "tech", "snapjaw" type rumor. It's classed as an "oddity" in the journal, so it will be easy to tell if you get it from a secret. Unfortunately, this also means that you can basically exhaust every single water-binding secret with relevant factions and still miss it completely. (I guess trash divination will eventually give it to you).

AFAIK this is due to the game using a different generation method than back when the mod was last updated in 2021, but I can't confirm.

2) Furthermore, said guaranteed XS can be spawned pretty much anywhere on the map (though it will favor the intial areas). Meaning, you could literally sweep the entire map several times over before you finally find it.
it can also drop as village quest reward

3) It seems you can also get a Xyloschemer as Relic drops, however, if you're installing this on a game in progress, it obviously can also be a massive pain in the ass to find. To note, this also appears to be RNG dependant, so it's also possible to completely miss it.

I can propose five solutions if you're stuck like me.

- A blueprint seems to be purchaseable from Argyve, however, I could not find any specific lines adding it on the code when I checked it, and I did not get it a single time when I dropped it into a game in progress. It might just spawn on a new game only, or I might have been incredibly unlucky.

- I suppose you could beguile/love injector snapjaw elites and water-bind them for the secret.. Good luck turning that rep around, but you could do it.

- If you want to just nudge the intended path and get the location of the guaranteed XS on your Journal, you can Wish 'revealsecret:$hpsnapgrifter'. Getting there and completing the encounter is up to you.

- I have made a small mod that you can install alongside Hearthpyre and adds a guaranteed Xyloschemer at a point where I find reasonable.

- If you want to have a xyloschemer NOW, you can Wish 'HearthpyreXyloschemer'. This will spawn one on the floor right there, right then.

For reference, the "intended" route does not work (as the secret/location in question does not generate) when adding this mod to an already in progress game, at least not in the current update. Might be why some people are having trouble with it.