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Corpra Mesa
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Ygolnac 14 Apr, 2019 @ 6:13pm
Apologies to the skin author
I'm super-editing this post.

First I want to apologize with the author of the skin becouse indeed my tone was not respectfull of his job, event tough I didn' offend him personally in any way.

Second I was even wrong in bringing in the lore issue, failing to understand the nature of the Tennogen idea.

I received many constructive criticism to my post, with a lot of people just wanting to explain my error and refraining from personal insults.

But I also got a fair amount of hate, with users insulting me (stupid, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, brain stroked, etc.). Even after I stopped posting, the insults are going on for days. It seems, not surprising me, that a lot of sad people is quick in jumping on the hate train and find joy on beating dead horses, people in disadvantage in opinion, finding themselves in weak positions.

All of these users have been reported personally,, and looking the personal attack the post became I kindly ask a mod to lock it down.

To all the people that explained me why i was wrong: thank you.
To all the people that insulted me: you must be sad, beeing able to be worst the thing you were criticizing.

P.S. yes, I'm not native English speaking and I might make mistakes or incorrect sentencing. Are all the Native English speakers in the world able to discuss in a decent way in another language, without having studied it?
Last edited by Ygolnac; 24 Apr, 2019 @ 7:10pm
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Stonehead 15 Apr, 2019 @ 7:39am 
This is rendered image for demonstration. Not in-game shot.
Please do not nitpick about nothing.
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MrHeolsen 17 Apr, 2019 @ 4:09am 
The peacemakers aren't part of mesa's skin but seperate models so they can't even be changed by tennogen creators, so while this is shown without them mesa would still have them was this put in game :P
Last edited by MrHeolsen; 17 Apr, 2019 @ 4:10am
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Punished Jeremy 17 Apr, 2019 @ 6:40pm 
Wow you certainly are a special kind of detractor

I’ve seen people strongly dislike things. I’ve strongly disliked things. I don’t personally care if they get released anyway. Who cares
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Punished Jeremy 17 Apr, 2019 @ 7:12pm 
Originally posted by Ygolnac:
Originally posted by Delta is Problematic:
Wow you certainly are a special kind of detractor

I’ve seen people strongly dislike things. I’ve strongly disliked things. I don’t personally care if they get released anyway. Who cares
I care becouse I see other frames in game, and there's a border between personal taste and ruining other immersion. Why mesa should have a Corpus version that is controlled by a Tenno?

It would be better that skin would be used for a Corpus boss that used Warframe technology to its advandage, preactically desacrating Mesa herself for horrible experiments.

Not everything that look "wow" for a certain number of player should get in the game.

My honest opinion, and since I'm the only one thinking like this, I felt the urge to express my feelings, hoping that DE cares a bit about their lore.
Sounds like you have a problem with the core idea of tennogen. Too little, too late. Most people like this kind of stuff. And nitpicking what constitutes appropriate immersion is a ass backward argument in a game where you can make your character a pink and neon green ninja with flames sprouting from there back
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Punished Jeremy 17 Apr, 2019 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by Ygolnac:
Originally posted by Delta is Problematic:
Sounds like you have a problem with the core idea of tennogen. Too little, too late. Most people like this kind of stuff. And nitpicking what constitutes appropriate immersion is a ass backward argument in a game where you can make your character a pink and neon green ninja with flames sprouting from there back

Still, pink and whatever, it resembles the feauteres of the warrior that the frame was build (and half cloned) from. Colour scheming and skins that fit the concept are no worrie for me. They are the tastes of the Tenno that transfer into them.

A corpus version of Mesa is wrong in my book. I do hope DE cares about their lore and not only about popularoty of a "cool" skin.

But above all, I'm just espressing my opinion, somethig that it seems you cannot tolerate.
You got that backwards too. You do realize I’m the one who pointed out how intolerable you sounded. You said you hope this never gets made available, and I said If you aren’t going to buy it, why shouldn’t it be available to others

Who sounds more intolerable in that scenario?

If your just saying I’m intolerable because I’m challenging you on your flimsy immersion logic, that’s your hill to die on. DE doesn’t just accept Graxx and Corpa (and any infested ones), because they are popular. Nothing about any tennogen skins are canonically binding and nobody ever said they where. Skins get accepted if they meet the standards that DE set for Tennogen like three years ago, and more importantly, if they are well made. Frankly the texture work on the early graxx skins where so good enough, or at least better than the standard at the time that DE overlooked there whole No Eyes rule. And more people are happy with that than unhappy
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Punished Jeremy 17 Apr, 2019 @ 8:42pm 
Also I guess you hate Deluxe skins too
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R∃M1X 18 Apr, 2019 @ 1:34am 
If you care so much about the lore then why should we be able to use Corpus or Grineer weapons? Why should tenno be able to have moas and helios when they're Corpus based companions? A lot of flawed logic that doesn't add up here..
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Szczur 18 Apr, 2019 @ 4:21am 
You do realise that other than the primes normal frames are more or less made from contemporary materials? As such it is not only within possibility but quite possible that frames would use some parts of said materials.
Also as operators we are "living" in this new reality dominated by corpus and grineer aesthetics so it's quie obvious that they will be used in frames.
Not every operator is a diehard tenno protectionist.
Some if not many who are in direct contact with SU/ Cetus/ Steel Meridian/ Perrin Sequence etc:. will probably accept the new looks be it for the camouflage be it for the style.

TLDR:. Mixing tenno's and other factions style is not only plausible but to be expected and more lore friendly than your idea of pure tenno style.

Oh and don't forget that both Valkyr and Mesa are a product of corpus tinkering.
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Punished Jeremy 18 Apr, 2019 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Szczur:
You do realise that other than the primes normal frames are more or less made from contemporary materials? As such it is not only within possibility but quite possible that frames would use some parts of said materials.
Also as operators we are "living" in this new reality dominated by corpus and grineer aesthetics so it's quie obvious that they will be used in frames.
Not every operator is a diehard tenno protectionist.
Some if not many who are in direct contact with SU/ Cetus/ Steel Meridian/ Perrin Sequence etc:. will probably accept the new looks be it for the camouflage be it for the style.

TLDR:. Mixing tenno's and other factions style is not only plausible but to be expected and more lore friendly than your idea of pure tenno style.

Oh and don't forget that both Valkyr and Mesa are a product of corpus tinkering.
Nfdus is infested
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Cap'n MacHaddish 18 Apr, 2019 @ 2:26pm 
If you don't like it don't buy it. No one here is demanding your money. I personally think this skin is fabulous, but if you "wouldn't touch it with a stick", then don't. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but don't force it on others. I want to pay money for this skin. Don't deny me or anyone else the opportunity to support DE and FrellingHazmot by buying it.
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Punished Jeremy 18 Apr, 2019 @ 9:35pm 
Originally posted by Ygolnac:
I see there are alot of passionate people about this skin, and since a lot of people uses mesa too, it will end I'll have to endure it in the game probably. Oh well, now we have easter rabbits ears attached everywhere and frames that leaves behind eggs in their trail and I'm surviving.

But you will never change my mind about it's wrong from a lore pov. We use corpus and greneer weapons becouse they are viable, frames are another thing.

That skin should be for a corpus boss that messed with mesa parts, that would be way better than looking operators wield that abortion.

And don't worry, I am for supporting DE and Tennogen skins, wich I've bought aplenty. My argument is not about tennogen or DE selling ingame content and getting their super very fair profit. I'm just against this skin. Sorry to have an opinion.
Just stick with "I dont like it"

It has less holes in it
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Punished Jeremy 18 Apr, 2019 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by Ygolnac:
Originally posted by Delta is Problematic:
Just stick with "I dont like it"

It has less holes in it

To me all the holes in the world are in the lore of such a skin. Then if too many vote "Yes", DE would rightfully make it official becouse they are nice guys and want to make ppl happy-

But believe me, it doesn't fit.





Deluxe skins
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Punished Jeremy 18 Apr, 2019 @ 11:04pm 
Originally posted by Ygolnac:
Originally posted by Delta is Problematic:





Deluxe skins

I have some, can't see where thay are lore-breaking.
There are not Corpus themed deluxe skins with frames that look like the average dweller of Fortuna.

With this skin you can put operator face in the belly, go to Fortuna and start lifting.

Do you lift bro?
If your gripe is about lore then you should be complaining about Tenno designs that aren’t those bio guyver things

In what lore respect is a deluxe skin better than a grineer or corpus skin?
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Szczur 18 Apr, 2019 @ 11:40pm 
You should just stick with "I don't like it". The moment you bring out the lore it smacks your argument to the ground.

You seem to forget that Mesa doesn't look "Tenno-ish" at all. She's Alad V/corpus as hell.
Same case for Valkyr. And well Nidus...so tenno am I right. Oh and have I mentioned Revenant?

In the end every non prime is a reproduction/ flawed construction that uses contemporary style.
Actually, now post sacrifice the possibility for Tenno to want to break their ties with old culture is even more plausible.
Just to stay in lore argument. Your tenno may want to keep their tenno look but others may actually lean corpus or grineer way.

Also If you don't like some random persons clothes do you write letters to the designer complaining that you have to see those clothes?



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Grandis 18 Apr, 2019 @ 11:58pm 
Yeah, skins can sometimes have questionable canonicity. Like the situation between Valkyr, Valkyr Deluxe and Valkyr Prime. That confused a lot of Warframe players for a while.

Whether one agrees with it or not, Warframes and Operators can and do implement Grineer and Corpus parts sometimes, even up to a full body. And we already have Excalibur Corpra AND Nova Corpra in the game. Not only that, but we have allies who are former Corpus. Darvo, Ergo Glast and (in a way) Solaris were part of the Corpus and have Corpus technology. It's not unreasonable that they could "Corpus-ify" a Warframe off of their basic blueprint.

But this just seems like an excuse for the "your opinion is bad" police. Ygolnac is allowed to say that they don't like it, or even that they don't think it makes sense, because that's their opinion (and that's what the discussions and feedback areas are for).
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