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The New Order - Old World Blues (LEGACY VERSION)
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[TBG]=Sponge=[UA] 1 May, 2019 @ 8:33pm
Issues i'm encountering so far.
Is there any way to prevent Dirlewanger from randomly dying? I was about to take over Orenburg and it basically killed my playthrough since it locks you out of your focus tree, there was no warning or anything, he just overdosed and that's it, reloading doesn't prevent it so i'm REALLY confused, sometimes he gets killed by a rock. I've also had him get killed 4 times in a row even though he was already dead lmao. Another thing as well, couldn't do the focus "Pillage Orenburg" cuz it requires "A hollow victory" and "Loot and Burn" focuses which I don't think are compatible lol, at the very least I couldn't do both because Lysenko didn't take anything or joined the war, maybe it has something to do with him being taken over by the NKVD? Anyways, gonna have to wait for a few updates to play this again, seeing lots of potential, but it's really buggy as it is rn.
Last edited by [TBG]=Sponge=[UA]; 1 May, 2019 @ 9:09pm
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Lonely Knightess  [developer] 1 May, 2019 @ 11:14pm 
1. Dirly is supposed to die, but after criticism we're adding a decision to stave it off until after the final focus is taken in an upcoming update.
2. I'll look into that last one.

thanks for the comments!
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[TBG]=Sponge=[UA] 2 May, 2019 @ 12:09am 
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1729607576
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1729607537
The screenshots of the problem. Since I can't do the Hollow Victory focus, I also can't do the Chase the Scraps focus, effectively locking me out of the focus tree. I'm assuming it's meant to require only one of the focuses, not both of them. Hope to see this fixed!
Last edited by [TBG]=Sponge=[UA]; 2 May, 2019 @ 12:15am
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Lonely Knightess  [developer] 2 May, 2019 @ 12:17am 
I see where I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up in that code. I'll work on a hotfix for tomorrow.
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Lonely Knightess  [developer] 2 May, 2019 @ 12:53am 
Hotfix is out, sorry about that.
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[TBG]=Sponge=[UA] 2 May, 2019 @ 1:03am 
That was fast, much appreciated! Another thing I was wondering, once Lysenko gets taken over by the NKVD leader, does it still make sense narratively for you to get slave events and focuses for him? (AKA, Upholding the deal, giving him slaves, etc) as i'd assume he would be dead or in exile, not sure how you can still trade with him, maybe you could have a checkmark for his focuses like - "Lysenko is the faction leader" and if he's not it bypasses the focus? Also, once you take over the NKVD it still treats him as the faction leader, due to the flavor text saying like "Lysenko's head was cut off and put on a pike" I feel like that could be replaced with the NKVD leader getting brutally killed. Just some narrative problems i'd like to point out. (Mainly a thing I noticed in my Dirly playthrough that kinda bugged me lol)
Last edited by [TBG]=Sponge=[UA]; 2 May, 2019 @ 1:04am
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Lonely Knightess  [developer] 2 May, 2019 @ 1:26am 
Those *should* have been fixed in the patch. Are they still going on for you?
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[TBG]=Sponge=[UA] 2 May, 2019 @ 1:35am 
Hmm, that might've been because I was playing on a save file from an old version or something like that. I'll do some testing to see if it's still happening or not, I suppose I need to start a new game? Anyhow, these are the event screenshots https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1729644936
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1729644888 it does mention the NKVD, but Lysenko is still the one who dies without them mentioning Bunkov at all (I think). Once again, these are taken from an older savefile (like, 7 hours ago I would wager) I'll probably do another run once Dirly randomly dying issue is fixed and check it out then
Last edited by [TBG]=Sponge=[UA]; 2 May, 2019 @ 1:48am
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[TBG]=Sponge=[UA] 2 May, 2019 @ 1:42am 
One thing is certain though, I don't see any visible checkmark for Lysenko still being a leader on the focuses, I dunno if it's hidden on purpose or something, but here are the screenshots from a newer playthrough.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1729648258
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1729648312
Sorry for bothering you so much, just highlighting some of my observations.
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