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1." I don't get how draining the Mediterranean would cause economic collapse tho." Oh, I don't know, maybe the fact that damming it would've been a costly undertaking and that major port cities like Venice would've become useless? Or the fact that Atlantatropa is not the only thing that collapsed the economy?
"Thing is, it is literally impossible to drain such a vast body of water" https://www.quora.com/Would-it-be-possible-to-dam-the-Mediterranean-Sea.
"there'd be no economic benefit at all, many important port cities would lose their access to the sea." First of all, congrats on explaining why the economy crashes. Second of all, Germany went ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane after the war and thought that megaprojects like these would help the economy.
"The entire idea of the Germans having to police and suppress, as well as colonize western Russia could even be enough to collapse the Reichs economy too and be more realistic to boot." How do you think the economy crashes? As I said, Atlantatropa wasn't the only reason the economy crashes.
"I also prefer the old coastline." Eh, both are ok.
3. Because the economy crashes and the fact that RK Moscovein (sorry for massacring the name Panzer) is so overextended that Russians are used to fill in the gaps (one of the reasons why RK Moscovein is the most equal of all the RK's.)
5. You'd think the Germans would care?
6. Because the economy crashes.
7. The Reich considers the RK's to be a part of Germany, but they have a lot of autonomy.
8. Turkey was apart of the Axis in TTL.
9. "I think the number of warlords in Russia should be slightly decreased, many seem to be too small to even support themselves with food and resources." the situation in Russia is literally apocalyptic after the collapse, so them being small kinda makes sense. This post explains the warlords fairly well: https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/bpxuiw/handy_guide_to_the_russian_warlords_and_kazakhstan/
"Tbh I'd have preferred an alt-history where Stalin still came to power and kept leading a rump state in Siberia." as a fan of TWR, I have just the upcoming mod for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/twrmod/.
10. " I also feel like a split up UK doesn't leave enough of a threat for Germany." It'll be a threat if free England wins.
" I think a Germany victory without invading the UK could be possible had Halifax become PM instead of Churchill and signed an armistice." That's what happens in TWR except Churchill signs an armistice after a disastrous Dunkirk.
11. they (RK flags) feel kinda out of place, as irl, the Reichskommissariats were just military administrations of Germany, and as such, only used the German national flag, the swastika." they're not military administrations anymore, but colonies.
"Amur and "Aryan Brotherhood"'s flags also are a bit annoying, in an alt-history where Hitler carried out his plans of ethnically cleansing western Russia, I really doubt Knostantin Rodzaevsky would have used a swastika as his banner.
The same issue with the "Aryan Brotherhood", combining the Russian flag (flag of the subhumans according to Nazi ideology) with the swastika, is out of place for the time period." If you look at the Aryan Brotherhood section of the source I posted it says "Aryan Brotherhood- german rper's, think that slavs can become Aryans through skill/deeds." so.. yeah...
1. Ah ok, so magically the nazis just decided to build this tihng for no reason and all other mediterranean countries for no reason allowed it.
On a side note, I wonder why the entire idea of nazis win = atlantropa project is used so much in alt-history when the nazis never had anything to do with such fantasies, considering they had enough lebensraum in the east. The idea was mostly pushed by a random architect before WW2, and he wasn't a nazi.
3. Sounds legit I guess, but a bit wierd considering the nazis were willing to spend astronomical amounts of money on "atlantropa", yet deemed it too expensive to go back to the urals.
4. Well yeah, if partisans pop up around the occupied territories, they will HAVE to care.
6. That makes no sense, Germany would have had plenty of time to invade those countries long before the altantropa thing.
7. But why?
8. But how does that change territorial gains? According to the wiki, Turkey joined later into the war, and at that point, Bulgaria was already occupying western thrace.
9. Yeah I found TWR after making this post, looks very promising.
11. I don't see why that would make them have new flags. Also, technically, during irl WW2, the reichskommissariats were kind of more like quasi-colonial administrative systems, with a reichskommissar, or governor, answering to Hitler.
Yeah it is kinda overdone isn’t it? But hey, I’ll let it pass if it shows the afterwffects like this mod, unlike the man in the high castle.
3. Germany doesn’t care about their colonies, as evident by the fact that they sent the leader of RK Moscowein (again, sorry for slaughtering the name Panzer) a “go ♥♥♥♥ yourself” message after he sends a report that asks for more troops after escaping from russian partisans.
4.oops, i meant 5. My bad. Changing it now. Also to answer your question about poland and the baltics/ostland, AI poland always gets taken over by partisans during the german civil war, and ostland can collaspe into a 12 way civil war during the german civil war.
6.The economy crashes in the 50’s. That leaves at least five years before the crash, in which they would’ve been busy building their megaprojects and germanizing, so go figure.
7. Because ruling that much territory with so many different ethnicities that all hate you alone isn’t a good idea?
8. I don’t know much about turkey, sorry.
11.Because having the sane flag as the nation you answer to to confusing? Also never knew that, thanks for the TIL.
1. How were they not informed? If millions of tonnes of concrete poured in, thousands of trains and hundreds of thousands of workers poured in, they would definately notice. Why would Germany want to power the mediterranean if they own no land there?
I get that the devs really want this thing to make sense, but it doesn't, at all lol
3. Eh, soudns like a Deus ex machina
6. yeah but they don't need their entire army to do that though
7. Do you think that would stop the nazis from trying?
11. Because they are a part of the same country, it's why the US flag flies in every US state, and every russian state uses the russian flag on government buildings.
1. I already said why they weren’t informed. And when they did notice, what were they gonna do? The Triumvirate wasn’t a thing back then and the Mediterranean nations weren’t powerful enough to stop them.
3. What? How is that a deus ex machina?
6. Yeah but they’re too busy with other ♥♥♥♥ to care about them.
7. No. That’s why germany considers the RK’s a part of the reich. Think of them like the states.
11....You do realize the states have their own flags, right?
1. Doesn't make sense, it is impossible to implement such a crazy project without ANYONE knowing, if the US government can figure out that North Korea is building nukes in an underground facility, then I am pretty sure borderguards in Spain, Turkey and anywhere else would notice thousands of trucks and trains crossing the border.
3. In this lore, Germany has no reason to not care about their colonies, other than that the lore or "plot" demands it.
6. Doesn't look like a good excuse tbh.
7. What?
11. Yeah, but they don't fly state flags everywhere, in schools and such. Irl, the RKs didn't have their own flags.
3. That's because they have their own ♥♥♥♥ to deal with, like, y'know, the economic collapse. Also found the RK Moscowein (finally spelled it correctly) leak: https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/the-hearts-of-iron-megathread.15402/page-166#post-12434579
6. Do you not know what overextension means? Also read the link I posted for more information.
7."The Reichskommisariats (RKs) are colonies directly ruled by the Nazi party, with a lot of autonomy from the central authority in Germania."
11. Well, this isn't IRL isn't it?
"it makes them look like a collection of lead eaters instead of people who innovated on tech and took over Europe." Are you seriously glorifying the Nazis right now? The only reason they won is because of hacks. They would've never won in a realistic scenario. (Yes, I know this scenario is unrealistic, but it makes for a fun mod.)
"Keep making excuses its still a terrible idea from a writing standpoint." Yes, it is but that's not the point of this mod is it? Plus this mod's still more realistic than The Man In the High Castle since it doesn't wank off the Nazis.
Made these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_II#Reliability_and_mobility https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant#Combat_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdtiger#Design
And to try this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Bulge
"the point of the mod could be to make ice cream for lativa it's still a terrible idea." what the ♥♥♥♥ are you trying to say?