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Donut Duel Mod [12 Player Maximum]
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MosieznyKojot 5 Jun, 2019 @ 1:29am
Suggestions
The whole mod is great and I love the way the map looks, but it needs balancing.
XP is fine, it can easily be gained by focuses, convoys are OK, doctrines are not and they're gamebreaking.
I had a war agains 3 countries at the same time as they formed coalition, I eventually won but war took about 5 years and 28m dead soldiers. It shouldnt take that long and it should look like a WW1 battlefield when 80-90 div in one province is just a standard and you can barely push the line.

Here's what I'd suggest to change

Reduce manpower from 320m to 160m
Reduce civ factories from 100 to 50
Reduce mil factories from 100 to 40-50

Increase shipyards to 10-15

Remove all researched doctrines
Remove or change starting tank div, because they are unstoppable in greater numbers
Last edited by MosieznyKojot; 5 Jun, 2019 @ 1:30am
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Raid 2 Jun, 2019 @ 6:44am 
All doctrine
Hello, I would like to ask you to not have all the doctrines researched, as it is gamebreaking and doesnt make fun. Please change it so you dont start with any doctrine researched.
Last edited by Raid; 2 Jun, 2019 @ 6:45am
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Gobbe 2 Jun, 2019 @ 7:01am 
yyes i agree
#2
Raid 2 Jun, 2019 @ 7:24am 
Ban the ai from making faction
Hello, if the AI just randomly make a faction its breaks the fun of the game, so please give everyone a national buff which prevents them from making a faction.
#3
asmodeus 2 Jun, 2019 @ 7:37am 
Absolutely. I find part of the fun of warfare in this game is who researches the best doctrine for their playstyle first.
#4
Cinema 2 Jun, 2019 @ 10:27am 
I agree
#5
Cinema 2 Jun, 2019 @ 10:27am 
I agree
#6
[92nd] Gaben 4 Jun, 2019 @ 10:29am 
Please could you add xp on the start of the game so we can edit our templates
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#7
Kāi  [developer] 6 Jun, 2019 @ 8:31am 
That's a good point, I'll deactivate the factions.
#8
Kāi  [developer] 6 Jun, 2019 @ 8:33am 
I'll make a submod out of it. So nobody can blame me later ^^
But you're right, it was more of a gimmick :)
Last edited by Kāi; 6 Jun, 2019 @ 10:16am
#9
Kāi  [developer] 6 Jun, 2019 @ 8:35am 
Thank you very much for thinking about this, I am of course very concerned that everyone has the most possible fun with this mode. I will definitely test your suggestions!
#10
Kāi  [developer] 6 Jun, 2019 @ 8:36am 
A good point, thx! I'm going to test around what's the best possible number of xp's.
#11
Gobbe 6 Jun, 2019 @ 9:30am 
Don't forget the other doctrines, aka air and land. Another idea i had myself was maybe add scenarios for half the amount of players or even 11 different scenarios for X amount of people, its a problem my server has experiences cus its unfair if 3 out of 5 players get a free country before they have to fight any players, also; please have the start have half the factories, with that amount of civies you fill all slots immediatly and can beat anyone just by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out the (may i add chane the) OP ass starting division. I propose you start with 1 20 width division and no tanks or templates.
#12
Kāi  [developer] 6 Jun, 2019 @ 10:19am 
It's good you're worried about helping me improve your experience. I will take all these ideas and test them out for myself.
#13
Рикардинью 6 Jun, 2019 @ 12:35pm 
I was shreded to death playing alone against 11 countries, it would be fun if we could choose scenarios like 6x6 or 3x3 or 1x1 and countries got deleted from the map, maybe a "always war", all countries start at war with the neighbour, just ideas :D
#14
Рикардинью 6 Jun, 2019 @ 12:36pm 
And reduce manpower a lot :v it turns impossible to deplet an enemy of manpower
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