Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

Extended Timeline: The Cold War and The Modern era
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Hando 13 Jul, 2019 @ 9:24am
This mod needs more ideologies and change 1936 and 1939 for 1960 and 1970
Do:

Extremist Radical

Marxism-Leninism

Trockysm

Maoism

Reactionary

Fascism

Anarchy

Monarchism

Radical Islamism

Right-Wing:

Conservatism

Nationalism

Centre Center:

Centrism

Left-Wing

Social Democracy

Liberalism

Progresivism
Last edited by Hando; 13 Jul, 2019 @ 9:25am
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KDY Engineer 13 Jul, 2019 @ 6:57pm 
Originally posted by Pasztet Seba:
Do:

Extremist Radical

Marxism-Leninism

Trockysm

Maoism

Reactionary

Fascism

Anarchy

Monarchism

Radical Islamism

Right-Wing:

Conservatism

Nationalism

Centre Center:

Centrism

Left-Wing

Social Democracy

Liberalism

Progresivism


Why not just add these as sub idelogies
Last edited by KDY Engineer; 13 Jul, 2019 @ 6:58pm
Hando 14 Jul, 2019 @ 4:53am 
Because its more interesting and if i know life nationalism will be for fascism and anarchy for communism (as a conservative not to get political or anything but as a conservative and nationalist i'm offended for nationalism for fascism and anarchy is no goverment and communism is big goverment) Maybe like that if you want them as sub-ideologies
Democracy:

Conservatism

Centrism

Liberalism

Progresivism

Social Democracy

National Democracy

Royal Democracy

Fascism:

Fascism

National Socialism

Rexism

Communism:

Marxism-Leninism

Trockysm

Maoism

Neutral:

Absolute monarchy

Despotism

Millitary junta

Ultra nationalism

Socialism

Oligarchy

Anarchy

Radical Islamism
Last edited by Hando; 14 Jul, 2019 @ 5:18am
KDY Engineer 14 Jul, 2019 @ 6:15am 
Originally posted by Pasztet Seba:
Because its more interesting and if i know life nationalism will be for fascism and anarchy for communism (as a conservative not to get political or anything but as a conservative and nationalist i'm offended for nationalism for fascism and anarchy is no goverment and communism is big goverment) Maybe like that if you want them as sub-ideologies
Democracy:

Conservatism

Centrism

Liberalism

Progresivism

Social Democracy

National Democracy

Royal Democracy

Fascism:

Fascism

National Socialism

Rexism

Communism:

Marxism-Leninism

Trockysm

Maoism

Neutral:

Absolute monarchy

Despotism

Millitary junta

Ultra nationalism

Socialism

Oligarchy

Anarchy

Radical Islamism

The problem with this is diplomacy. If we make them all seperate a "light" nationalist like some modern European leaders (such a hungary, and italy I think although Im not that well read up European Politics) will have the same bad relations with with the U.S. as the soviet union. This is ridiculous thus we would need modifiers. We would also need to change every line in the game for code to make sure countries with modifers do not get a massive growth of the base ideology's for example my unreleased stasi modifer gives a boost to communism. I could change this to Marxist Leninism but then in order to hurt the other ideologies I would need to list them all. The other problem is where would I put something like Anarcho-Communism. I know we will add an Islamic Category eventually since this mod will eventually go to the modern day. We might add in a few more like Traditional nationalism eventually but adding them in the way the original MD did them is not that useful.
Hando 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:11am 
Maybe (not to get political) left-wing nationalism for fascism and classic as authoritarian.
KDY Engineer 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by Pasztet Seba:
Maybe (not to get political) left-wing nationalism for fascism and classic as authoritarian.

If I did that I would be making a politicial statement to those who believe all fascist are right wing. I might just put a sub ideology of centrist nationalist into non-aligned and ultra nationalist as sub ideology of fascism
Last edited by KDY Engineer; 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:24am
Hando 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:25am 
And national democrats as democracy.
KDY Engineer 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Pasztet Seba:
And national democrats as democracy.
I guess, are national democrats in favor of an ethno-state?
KDY Engineer 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:31am 
From what I found on a quick search they seem to be a spinoff the the BNP party which would make them ultra nationalist
Last edited by KDY Engineer; 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:31am
Hando 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:34am 
Well you are making political statement to conseravtives and christains.
KDY Engineer 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by Pasztet Seba:
Well you are making political statement to conseravtives and christains.

Isnt that their self proclaimed ideology?
KDY Engineer 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by Pasztet Seba:
Well you are making political statement to conseravtives and christains.

This is exactly why I want to leave the subject alone
Hando 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:37am 
No so is democartic socialism.
Last edited by Hando; 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:37am
KDY Engineer 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by Pasztet Seba:
No so is social democarcy.
wdym
Hando 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:40am 
National democarcy is an actuall ideology.
KDY Engineer 14 Jul, 2019 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Pasztet Seba:
No

What exactly is their self declared ideology. Its not like I can follow every international political party
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