I probably sound stupid saying this but I had to actually go research what "Operation X" was lol. See I only bought CS:GO because from the screenshots it looked like they really came a long way in the Source engine from Counter-Strike: Source and I wanted to check it out (It was also really cheap on Steam when I did). I saw all the lighting and shader improvements in this version and wanted to know what my old maps would've looked like with more realistic lighting. I've only briefly played the maps included with the game so that I could check them out and see how far they've come before I started working on this one. I'm really not familiar with the actual game that much because I only run the game when Hammer compiles the map and loads it so I miss the whole menu screen every time. I guess these "Operation" packs are paid content like Team Fortress 2? That would be nice to get involved in those although I don't expect to make any money creating the map. In fact I don't think they'll ever add it because even Valve won't be legally allowed to make money on it.

As far as the skybox goes it's not that I'm incapable of doing it, I just got lazy and irritated trying to come up with a surrounding that would fit seamlessly into it. The walls surrounding McDonald's could remain there on the sides and back because most of the McDonald's restaurants I've been to have walls that separate them from their surrounding businesses. For that I can just make buildings all around the sides and be fine. The front wall, however, would obviously have to go and I'd have to make a street with a scene and put a player block there to keep players in the intended play area and I just feel like that'll cause a framerate issue. That was the problem I ran into with Counter-Strike: Source. The more you put in the map the more your framerate will drop. Now a days that probably won't be as much of an issue because I'm sure by now most gamers have pretty decent hardware. Back then though it was a major issue so I never got to make the maps the way I really wanted to.

When you're brainstorming a map and you're not duplicating an already existing place with a pre-determinged layout and the players' accuracy expectations, you usually won't have issues with framerates because it's not so "open" and you can hide a lot of the map and models with area portals and occluders. My Best Buy map was just one giant room with a ton of stuff in it (which is how the store actually is) so I couldn't put the detail in that I really wanted and still have it remain playable. McDonald's is basically the same way with the openness. Lots of windows, a large room that's not very cut up, but again that's how McDonald's is so I'm kind of at the mercy of the layout.

I'll try to think of a way that I can design a skybox to finish off the look of the map. Right now I figured no skybox was better than a half-assed one that didn't really make any sense. Know what I mean? The sides and rear of the building won't be too hard to do but the front will be really involved if you want it to look right. I saw one map earlier in the Workshop that was a museum and they did a good job with their integration of the skybox but the map also had several areas that it was divided into so it could afford to render it. I guess maybe I should start an "FPS" discussion and see if people will report back their average framerate so I know what I can work with. I'm running two ATI cards in Crossfire so I wasn't even sure if anyone would be able to play it the way it sits right now.

I'm not sure if you said this in your really long reply. (Good work on that, I am just to lazy to read it.) But I doubt this map will ever get added to the Operations, Not because its a bad map (I actually don't know) but because its using copyrights that Valve doesn't have the licenses to use. It could probably be changed to something like High-Burger and make it past that requirement.

Well your right :C But it would have been nice to play this map in classic mode ^^

This won't get in an Operation Map Packs unless it changes away from using McDonalds trademarks.

I remember this map well from css, was a great one, but unfortunately it uses McDonalds, and changing it away from mcdonalds will be a bit unfamiliar to some players so i guess this map will have to stay in dedicated servers. Good job though, still fun as hell to play.

it's a kind of dumb discussion thread, really stupid reason of the creator of this thread

nice

you can always tweak the logos, like micdannys or rock cola, etc...

There is zero chance Valve will add a map called McDonalds to any operation X. They cannot infringe on the copyright and McDonalds would definitely sue them.

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why is this a dum sidcussion? you cant just say something without reason.

Change it to whatever that burger place was in L4D2. Instant solution.

Originally posted by miPe~fiVe <3 Wasserterrorist:

Change the Skybox

Pls contact somebody who can make a better one (3d).
I konw you've said that you cant make good ones, but to make valve adding this to an Operation "x" you need to work on it.
If someone is with me, pls comment, so the editor can react.

Contact him

If you are a good maper who can make 3d skyboxes, contact him and ask him if you can help him.

Sorry for my bad english.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

miPe~fiVe

nice

jajajajaja okk !

missing textures
two canopies in T spawn are black. Delete n re-download map several times, same problem.