you've clearly never played mag; at least she's not as bad as valkyr or banshee. snore

Originally posted by quanhitter69:

you've clearly never played mag; at least she's not as bad as valkyr or banshee. snore

You've clearly never played valkyr, her three when combined with her 4 can do 1.5 mill damage on Heavy gunners at lvl 150
She is one of the best frames for solo.
banshee is a snore
Just dont hit 4 and become a mindless cat yeah
Her 1 is great at mobility and she lands on her feet from every height.
her 2 is great for survival solo as well.

Mag needs skills to play as. Not an easy frame that makes your game boring and not a press-one-button-to-win type either. Do not believe the memes just because someone doesn't like her.

I'm glad she gets more attention now, cuz she haven't gotten anything new in the last 1-2 years (and barely has any good tennogen anyways).

Originally posted by Tarka:

Mag needs skills to play as. Not an easy frame that makes your game boring and not a press-one-button-to-win type either. Do not believe the memes just because someone doesn't like her.

I'm glad she gets more attention now, cuz she haven't gotten anything new in the last 1-2 years (and barely has any good tennogen anyways).

Have you tried harrow? He's a great frame, you're active with how you're playing, constantly keeping your 2 and shield up, making sure you hit headshots and requires that level of skill

Anyone can play valkyr, but it takes a good build to do 1.5 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mill damage
also, mag doesnt really take that much skill man, like one of her abilities literally makes you shoot into a giant circle hitbox and auto hit the enemy.
that literally screams "i cant aim" with bold italics.
and her 1? only good if you bring a weapon designed for finishers. (hurr muh crowd ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥)
her 4 is literally oberons fourth, who gives a ♥♥♥♥.
Also the ♥♥♥♥ you mean havent got any tennogen, any "good" tenno gen is completely your opinion, but its still tennogen nonetheless.

This is a pretty useless complaint to be honest. I don't know what you expect the creator to do about the Warframe for the skin they already created.

Originally posted by Scruffel:

This is a pretty useless complaint to be honest. I don't know what you expect the creator to do about the Warframe for the skin they already created.

It isnt neccessarily a complaint, more or less a note.

Originally posted by Zade:

Originally posted by Scruffel:

This is a pretty useless complaint to be honest. I don't know what you expect the creator to do about the Warframe for the skin they already created.

It isnt neccessarily a complaint, more or less a note.

You sure it's not a complaint? I really don't see how you can see this as anything else.

Originally posted by Zade:

mag has too much tennogen and sees too much of the spotlight, I dont get it, shes a trash frame compared to others, shes a pretty basic design...

Mentioning how much TennoGen Mag has, mentioning how she's popular, mentioning how she's low quality, and mentioning how she is generic, all in a negative manner. And by the way, a note can have complaints within it, which is what your's has.

Mag was before oberon, harrow and valkyr, I hope you know that.
And yeah, anyone can play valkyr, press one button and you're invincible, wow what a good and fun character. not. (unless you're going for god mode, but I don't see any challange and fun in that)
Mag needs skills to stay alive. That giant circle you say that's for "hitbox and auto hit the enemy" stops incoming damage, gathers around enemies so you can take em all or you can do whatever you want, like revive an ally or walk away (the enemy just kills themselves in there).
Her 1 also stops the enemy getting away, stop em shooting and/or stop em claiming the point (also good before reviving again.. do I need to mention greedy pull so you can have a cat/doge with you instead of a carrier?).
You forgot to mention her other ability that gives back allies their shield (and hers) and takes away the surrounding enemy's shield/armor.. or just takes em out. (This is also helpful during excavations to keep the drill alive, just letting you know).

I guess you also need creativity to know how to use mag.. she's not for everyone indeed.

But she is sexy af

Originally posted by Tarka:

Mag was before oberon, harrow and valkyr, I hope you know that.
And yeah, anyone can play valkyr, press one button and you're invincible, wow what a good and fun character. not. (unless you're going for god mode, but I don't see any challange and fun in that)
Mag needs skills to stay alive. That giant circle you say that's for "hitbox and auto hit the enemy" stops incoming damage, gathers around enemies so you can take em all or you can do whatever you want, like revive an ally or walk away (the enemy just kills themselves in there).
Her 1 also stops the enemy getting away, stop em shooting and/or stop em claiming the point (also good before reviving again.. do I need to mention greedy pull so you can have a cat/doge with you instead of a carrier?).
You forgot to mention her other ability that gives back allies their shield (and hers) and takes away the surrounding enemy's shield/armor.. or just takes em out. (This is also helpful during excavations to keep the drill alive, just letting you know).

I guess you also need creativity to know how to use mag.. she's not for everyone indeed.

Well if you took your own logic "I guess you also need creativity to know how to use mag" that applies for LITERALLY EVERY FRAME You just need a good build.
But mags abilities are literally out performed by other frames, making her trash, such as vauban ATM
I've tried explaining Valkyr to you and how it isnt just hURr Hit FoUR auwugH!!
But your ignorance is getting the best of you, No one except the left over braindead excal spam 4 users do that, I personally used to main valkyr but hated just hitting 4 and cheesing, its fun to jump around and hit 1 and then slide into a group hit 3 and then hit 4 slide attack into that and that way its more enjoyable and feels more satisfying
I choose carrier and always will except for farming things due to the ammo conversion.
You may think you dont need it but it is there when you need it.
You need to understand, its a melee frame, melee is just bash x with y till x is dead
same with atlas, hit 3 and 1
But with valkyr you can provide faster melee swings (helpful in some areas)
You can swing enemies across the entire ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ map (yes from one side to another of cetus
She used to be good, im sure of it, but the thing is her abilities, a lot like oberon and vauban, have become outdated and need a refresher because god knows she hasnt got a solid rework, as for her physical appearance its really got nothing going except the metal arm rings (dunno the name)
as for dog, yeah nah im gonna stick to cats cheers
and even then theyre a liability due to their routes they foillow and how they mess up a lot and are unreliable Cough smeeta charm cough
Though the cats eye crit buff is alright for eidos
If you want the builds in this video send me a write

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Miq_bHEA74

/w ZadeSpace ModLink Valkyr + Zaw Dagger


also oberon kinda slowly decaying in usage due to being outperformed and it happens with a lot of frames

To be fair, i'm going to say that it's not every Warframe that will please everyone, some will really like Valkyr while others, like me, will like Mag. I do not say that i hate Valkyr, i play every Warframe ( Except some that i didn't get the chance to build for the moment, like Hildryn, Gauss and Baruuk. ) But to say that a Warframe is trash because you don't like to play her ? Yeah, maybe you don't like her, that's fine but, they are other that really like to play her. For example i don't really like playing Limbo but i'm not going to bash the Warframe, as i came across some good Limbo's players. Just because we can't play a Warframe correctly doesn't mean that she/he is trash, but we just aren't suited to play them.

Gonna lock this thread since it clearly went off the rails a bit. As for my reasoning for going with Mag, I like her and her less intricate base mesh makes for an easier learning experience. Even then, it really isn't like I had Mag in one hand and Valkyr in the other and deliberately picked Mag over Valkyr just to piss valkyr fans off. I'm just one person, I have limited time and most of that was spent learning 3d programs before the deadline. Not saying I won't ever make a Valkyr skin, but if/when I do, it will be on my own terms.